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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    Soft slings are cheap, I'd buy my own 2 tonne rated ones, 1.5m is likely long enough, 3 of, and take them with you. Bunnings sell them nowadays. Plus a shackle or 2 with a SWL rating on it not one of the rubbish cheap ones. Yellow pin ones usually have a SWL marked on them, probably 12mm is ample.

    Never pays to stint on rigging gear.

    PDW

    Great suggestion.

  2. #17
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    My Macson looks a lot heavier than this Visby yet the Macson manual reckons it is 1100 kg, my other lathe looks heavier than the Macson and is 1650 kg, it also has a full cast iron base.

    I reckon that Visby would weigh somewhere between 750 - 850 kgs, still it is heavy and you wouldn't want it to fall over, or on top of you.

    As mentioned by Ropetangler sling it from the web between the ways closest to the chuck, then move the saddle and tailstock up or down the bed to balance it.

    If the truck has a steel tray then use carpet squares under it to stop it sliding around, if timber then nothing under it.

    cheers, shed

  3. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flo View Post
    ...I'll be engaging a professional to move this machine but I wanted some advice to ensure that had an idea of what should and should not happen.
    "a professional" ? Still pay to have a little oversight. There is a major Brisbane factory relocation specialist trucking crew who had a 50kg or so lathe tail stock 'drop off' at a traffic intersection..

    As always, a good start for lift ideas is Lathes UK Lifting - slinging - a lathe

    Sundry notes -
    The cast iron base of a lathe whilst being strong for its intended job can also be very brittle - a sharp hit can crack it. An in-experienced crane operator swinging the lathe hard into the side of the truck or even just dropping it hard onto the deck can crack the cast iron.

    The saddle and tail stock taken full back to balance a lift.

    Once lathe is loaded ensure every loose knob or whatever is removed. Take a spanner to all nuts and bolts and lock bolts etc. Lock saddle if possible or securely tie or wire it. Lock and tie down the tail stock or remove it.

    If chuck is an easy remove then take it off or ensure it is tied down. An apparently tight chuck can loosen up in transport and possibly fall off or just damage the threads/bearing surfaces. Put a bit of dowl in the chuck and tighten it up.

    'If' a lift strap absolutely must go over a lever a block of wood can be used to space the strap off the lever.

    More tie downs better... Look at the load and the tie-down layout. Break the tie-down 'job' into sections. - When the truck brakes what stops the lathe sliding forward? When truck accelerates what stops load sliding rear wards? Truck goes around corner what stops the lathe tipping over or sliding side ways?

    Happy trucking..




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  4. #19
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    @shedhappens

    Yeah I thought 1600kgs sounded heavy but I am only used to a small taiwanese lathe that was about 160kg.. Still, I have not seen this lathe in person and have no reason not to trust what people with more experience tell me. I hope it is closer to 800kg as it will be marginally easier to reposition in my garage.. mind you 800kg or 2 tonne is still going to be challenging. It'd be nice if the truck had a load cell/dyno to accurately gauge the weight..


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    Thanks for all the suggestions. There was lots of stuff that you mentioned that never would have occurred to me being the novice that I am.


    Yes my use of the word "professional" literally means an operator and a truck! Not necessarily anyone with experience moving old lathes.. You have me concerned now..

  5. #20
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    A friend's new lathe had a missing tailstock, doubt it had fallen off in transit because the stop was removed from the bed, but well advised to lock it in position beforehand. He moved his with a forklift with it mounted on a pallet on the back of his hilux - usually not a good idea, with the number of lathes killed that way - but he did tie it to the mast at least.

    A few years ago, but moving a few items of equipment via a machinery rigger, worked out around 1.3k for a slightly shorter distance, with a stop mid way with a load problem. Cheapest move was via a friendly scrap metal merchant which cost a couple hundred for double the distance.

    Is there supposed to be a gap piece there? Probably like to have that in position before a lift if there is. Toolpost still seems a fair way from the chuck to my eye at least, but ignorant of the brand.

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