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    Default Cordless power tools..

    A little while back I bought an Xchange cordless angle grinder for $49, cheap as chips! I already have a circular saw, LED, Drill and impact driver in the Xchange brand, all brushed bar the drill, all have been super cheap and all work well, very well. The grinder has soft start, a reasonably easy to use switch and plenty of power. If I had to pick something in the Xchange range it would probably be battery life, batteries seem to go flat fairly quickly.and also the drills chuck, which despite being all steel and feeling and looking 'quality' has a great propensity to come undone., All in all, all the Xchange tools I have, for the money, are extremely good value, being robust, well made and have good warranty length.

    Now we all know that cheap tools are rubbish, and only rubbish people buy them, right? Well, I haven't stuck strictly to cheap cordless tools, I have also a small suite of Milwaukee: M18 hammer drill, M12 drill driver, Hackzall, jig saw and an M12 rotary tool. Again, all have been great, but of course at a price nearly four times that of the Xchange tools, so how do they compare? An unfair comparison right? based on price!

    Hang on, not really unfair at all! Despite being almost 1/4 of the price of the Milwaukee, the Xchange range are incredibly good value and are very usable tools. Ok, ok, not in the same league as the Milwaukee, but nor is the price or the intended user the range is aimed at.

    My go to drill is the M12, this is a great drill with loads of power, great ergonomics and light in weight. Its big brother the M18 hammer is a machine, I swear it could launch a rocket into space. And, if one isn't mindful, could rip your shoulder out of it's socket should circumstances be favourable. One has to be careful when using this beast.

    So if I had to pick on the Milwaukee for something, it would be the lack of a side handle for the hammer drill , or availability of, for such a powerful drill. the rotary tool is also a very battery demanding tool, going through batteries like me through ice cream! That's it! Milwaukee quality mirrors their price. Incidentally, before you object, there is a side handle available, but none that will fit my particular model. Milwaukee have a number of M18 drills, all with different specs, even one that can be set on your Iphone!

    I suppose the beauty of the Xchange range is the variety of tools available and one can have a complete suite for just a few hundred bucks.

    If I had a choice, one or the other, Milwaukee would win hands down of course. Of course my pocket would also have an obvious choice.

    For a reasonable outlay, one could have a good suite of Xchange tools for dollars numbering the hundreds. Milwaukee, on the other hand, not so much, not nearly so much.

    Longevity, obvious a glaring negative you say??? Not really, Ozito offer excellent warranties, in line with most quality tools, including batteries. Some of my Xchange tools were bought around the same time as the Milwaukees - both have been trouble free, and despite both now being out of warranty, they both continue to work well and be trouble free.

    I'm sure in the future, brushless will gradually take over and, perhaps, we may even be heading towards throw away tools when the battery is depleted.

    I'm sure, those among you who demand high quality, high cost, cordless animals will scoff and offer a plethora of examples of Xchange/Ozito failures, I can nyumber a few among my pre- Xchange tools, but then again I can number failures of quality tools among my collections, Makita figuring prominently.

    So take this offering for what it's worth, remembering the intended use and cost factored in. I'm very pleased with both my Milwaukees and my Xchange tools, both offer good value when factoring in cost, use, ergonomics, power, quality of build. Indeed the Xchange seems, in some ways, to borrow from Milwaukee design.

    Before you write the brushless Xchange off as a cheap, gutless tool, next time you're in Bunnings clamp the chuck with your hand and pull the trigger - you may be surprised!

    Technology is evolving very rapidly with regard to cordless tools, one day, even Milwaukee may be affordable???

    Best regards:

    Thomas Ozito Milwaukee.

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    I also had ruled cordless angle grinders off completely after a bad experience but a friend lent me one and they are actually extremely handy. Shred batteries but are so useful.

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    I have a highly mobile angle grinder - it's a corded grinder and a Honda genset.

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    I should ad, the M18 angle grinder is superb to use. My three corded angle grinders were pretty much retired when I bought the Xchange, now I have an M18 as well, they may well find their way on to Gumtree.

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    Where I help out, we have 2 sets of cordless Dewalt grinders, drivers and drills, didn't particularly like them initially, but they like a woman, grow on you.
    Biggest problem is that in the evening, someone forgets to charge the batteries.
    I now have a Milwaulkee 18V cordless drill and driver, plus some other cordless drills, a bosch and a no name branded drill.
    Kryn
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    I should ad my Bosch IXO. These cop a bit of criticism for not having adjustable torque. Bosch make various attachments for the IXO, ever a pepper grinder thingy, I don't have that but I do have the adjustable torque head and right angle head. Hardly ever used the torque head but the right angle head is brilliant, lets you get in to tight spots.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW9tlkdt5ns
    Milwaukee seem to be quite powerfull
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    I went the Ryobi route with their 18V range.... I was given a 2-speed drill for Christmas maybe 6 years ago, and have since added a 1/2" rattle gun, an angle grinder, a reciprocating saw, a brushless drill (the beast - it breaks 1/2" drills if you jam them!), and most recently a brushless 10" (250mm) chainsaw.
    The key for heavier duty tools are the batteries. I now have 4 x 5Ahr batteries, and they last extremely well.
    The chainsaw is an eye-opener: I will happlily cut the full depth of the bar - and I've cut off a 500mm diameter ironbark log to test it. No hesitation! When I get firewood, I take it with me and cut up all the branches less than 250mm diameter to size and only use a petrol chainsaw for bigger stuff.
    Amazing tools since high output current lithium batteries became commodity.
    Cheers, Joe
    again completely retired - more time to contemplate projects and spend more shed time....

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    With the drills I've found it useful to have 2 smaller batteries just to reduce the load on my wrists. Mine are all Makita, 3 brushless drill drivers, a reciprocating saw and have 2x3A, a 4A and a 5A batteries.

    I have used a 36V Stihl Chainsaw at the tree loppers yard and I have to say it was most impressive. The key with chainsaws is a sharp chain.

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