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    Well $1666.

    If anyone here bought it, I am available to assist with a paint scheme to repaint it.
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    So I see a few of us had a nibble at the Monarch. I spoke with the owner but he did not know enough about the lathe to be able to diagnose why it stopped working. Might have been simple then with the 10EE it may not be. Had TTA but no steadies and only the one chuck. Said was quiet when previously running. He also wanted $100 to load on your truck. So what price a 74 year old project machine that has made grown men cry trying to repair. $1700 seems not horribly expensive but potentially years of restoration if the new owner wants to bring it back to 'as new' condition. All makes the CVA look cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    So I see a few of us had a nibble at the Monarch. I spoke with the owner but he did not know enough about the lathe to be able to diagnose why it stopped working. Might have been simple then with the 10EE it may not be. Had TTA but no steadies and only the one chuck. Said was quiet when previously running. He also wanted $100 to load on your truck. So what price a 74 year old project machine that has made grown men cry trying to repair. $1700 seems not horribly expensive but potentially years of restoration if the new owner wants to bring it back to 'as new' condition. All makes the CVA look cheap.
    Pretty much my thoughts. Freight to Tasmania was going to add $600 - $1000 to the bill. Top speed is only 2500 rpm, my Chipmaster does 3000, I have a full set of chucks, steadies etc etc though as they're both D1-3 I could have shared tooling. I know where I can get all the drawings for a TTA to fit my Chippie if I need one.

    Too much a 'project' machine. Good luck to the person who bought it, I hope it turns out to be excellent for them, but for me, I might just import one from the USA if I decide I have to own one. Or keep waiting - with the demise of the car manufacturing biz, who knows what might come on the market.

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    with the demise of the car manufacturing biz, who knows what might come on the market.
    I think your right Peter. There are still plenty of high end machines to hit the market in the next few years. Machinery dealers certainly agree. They expect supply to exceed demand for some years to come.

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    Everyone is right, you have no idea what could be wrong. I guess you could say I lucked out on mine. The government had thoughtfully had the two DC generators and motor that drives them rewired back in 1988. While the apron gears were all stuffed due to coolant ingress, someone had generously replaced all the bearings in there and I snazzled a full set of apron gears in as new condition out of a machine being wrecked in the US.

    The biggest downside to them is the 20" centres, the CVA's were all 30".

    That is 10EE number 5 or 6 that I know of in this country.

    But while all eyes were on the 10EE I saw this for sale as well. Looks brand new and that is more then a $20 000 lathe when new.

    http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0110-...on-sa?spr=true
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    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    I think your right Peter. There are still plenty of high end machines to hit the market in the next few years. Machinery dealers certainly agree. They expect supply to exceed demand for some years to come.
    Yeah, funny you should say that, given a lot of machinery dealers seem to think they're holding virtual gold mines and don't need to provide any customer service. If they truly think there'll be a glut, they should be reducing inventory as fast as possible. But - they aren't.

    I don't care. Plenty of good machines about (depends on your definition of 'good' of course) and only likely to get better for a while. Plus, I don't actually need anything so can pick & choose.

    As a consolation prize I seem to have bought myself an International TD6 Drott as a project for about the same money. It, too, does not run..... and needs transporting home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Everyone is right, you have no idea what could be wrong. I guess you could say I lucked out on mine.
    You might have lucked out on the drive system but you did a truly first class job on the rebuild of the mechanical systems.

    Pity about the paint job though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post

    As a consolation prize I seem to have bought myself an International TD6 Drott as a project for about the same money. It, too, does not run..... and needs transporting home.

    PDW
    I think that your Drott will be a great asset Pete, I'm not sure of the model that they had at Savage River when I worked there, but it did a great job on mill relines for all the time I was there, and very rarely needed any work doing on it. The only nit pick I would have with them is that they are a bit inelegant in the way their feet come down, especially if you have the boom in a tight hole. The whole machine swings and sways a bit unpredictably as the feet touch down and splay out, taking the weight off the suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropetangler View Post
    I think that your Drott will be a great asset Pete, I'm not sure of the model that they had at Savage River when I worked there, but it did a great job on mill relines for all the time I was there, and very rarely needed any work doing on it. The only nit pick I would have with them is that they are a bit inelegant in the way their feet come down, especially if you have the boom in a tight hole. The whole machine swings and sways a bit unpredictably as the feet touch down and splay out, taking the weight off the suspension.
    No feet on this one - it's one of these...

    http://www.redpowermagazine.com/foru...1165155400.jpg

    Unfortunately, it's a 'project' machine. I'm soooo short of projects. If (and I *mean* IF) I get it running, I've a lot of jobs for it around here - one being dragging the boat down to the road. After I fix my driveway.

    Big boy toy - and I already know the rule about tits, tracks or tyres.

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    Oh Drat, I had the wrong Drott! That could still be quite useful, you could make your drive so rough, that you needed that Drott to get to your place. No more religious representatives, Avon Ladies or council building inspectors to ruin your day.
    You could even poke back all fallen trees from your neighbours back to their rightful place, and a bucket load of wood would last half the winter, just park it outside the back door, or even the window closest to the heater.
    This was the kind of Drott that I had in mind, in fact possibly identical to the one at Savage River.Attachment 361576
    There are still other kinds though, and one of these would probably lift your whole boat onto a low loader for transport874799a.jpg

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    I think he will probably need to drop the price by $60 000.

    Huron MU4 Milling Machine 3 Axis R O Boring Head Gear Cutting Attachments Vice in VIC | eBay

    Absolutely fantastic and highly expensive machines in their day. But their day in industry has pretty much passed. I think if I was running a metal working business and had $75 000 to spend on a smallish mill, it would be on a CNC machine.
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    Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.

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    If it didn't sell for the 1,300 that was asked for initially, and it dropped to 1,000, I doubt that they'd get the 11,750 asking price
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    The first two links appear to be online auctions with actual bidders.
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    You're right again RC, I didn't notice the different lot numbers . Either way someone's going to get ripped off.
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