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    G'day Phil,
    It might be worth giving Ferntree Gully Bolts a call (9756 0566), they're the only place I've been able to buy BSF fasteners over the counter lately.
    No guarantee they will have dog points but you might be able to get some longer ones you can machine down.
    Not sure if they will post or not but if they have something you can use I'm happy to grab them and post em out.
    Cheers,
    Greg.

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    Default Grub screws

    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    Dog points can also be really use full in key ways to hold shafts in.Phil could if you wanted to make some up from stock couldn't you use a slot head? Be much easier than trying to put a hex in. Then fit with a blade driver rather than allan key.
    Phil have a heap of 3/8 WW X 1 inch long perhaps tap out to 3/8 ww and machine end on hold with 2 thin nuts locked together in 3 jaw 0412 506 156. Cheers John.

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    I checked with Dean at Talair Industrial Supplies in Springvale (Ph: 03 9546 1033) - He does know what you are talking about and believes he could get the 5/16 BSF dog points BUT you would have to order a box of 100. He thinks he has some 5/16th BSF x 1 1/2" bolts (NOS from his father's old stock) which could be machined and slotted as already suggested.

    If necessary, I could pick up and post to you.

    Bob

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    So thats what they are called! Phill thanks for the explanation always just called them grub screws I scored some out of old Singer sewing machines BUT they are smaller than 5/16. You could have had them if they had been.


    What we need is an old machine spares repository/scrap yard maybe.

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    Ray, when Mr Singer started making his machines he even invented his own pitches for threads meaning that no other "common" threaded bolt could be substituted.
    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    Default turning fixture

    G/day Phil, if you can only get 5/16" bsf grub screws, the end is easily turned by drilling a hole through a suitable length of stock
    for the allen key to go through, then drill and tap a thread to suit the grub screw to the depth required, leaving the end of the grub screw that requires machining protruding out of the end of the stock.
    Use your allen key through the hole to tighten and remove them.
    You likely know this, you may want to grind the end off the grub screw first as the end might be pretty tough.

    shed

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    Hi Phil, try this place they put out a PDF file that lists them. They're in Melbourne as well.



    Keables Pty Ltd


    www.keables.com.au/




    Ph +61 3 9321 6400 / info@keables.com.au ... Keables is renowned for supplying competitively priced non standard bolts, nuts, screws, washers, etc, in any size ...

    Regards
    Kryn

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    Quote Originally Posted by chambezio View Post
    Ray, when Mr Singer started making his machines he even invented his own pitches for threads meaning that no other "common" threaded bolt could be substituted.
    That figures keeps the likes of me who has stripped 3 or four down guessing won't it.

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    Gentlemen
    many thanks for the great replies.
    I will be giving Keables a call today and if no joy out of them I will be most likely making a couple out of the two bolts I have here at the moment and putting scrrewdriver slots.
    On another note the sparkies were in to wire up the Macson but with limited control circuitry experience the poor bloke was struggling.
    After quite a while studying the drawing it seemed that we needed to turn the machine light on to get it started. The tool and cutter grinder doesn't have one.
    It has a 240 volt outlet for the light and according to the drawing I had to plug in a 32 volt transformer and run a 32 volt light.
    I just happened to have a 32 volt transformer and light hanging around so plugged it in. Still wouldn't work until I switched the light on and sure enough, pressed the start button and the wheelhead started up.
    Never seen that before but according to the drawing, that is what is supposed to happen. Go figure.
    I'm fine with it as at least the grinder is ready to use except for a couple of things to do like make some dog points etc.

    Phil

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    Hi all
    good news on the dog point front, Keables have 86 in stock and as the lady explained "they aren't a real shelf mover"
    Amongst other things I am going through all the hydrostatic lubricators off the engines and doing repairs. As each one fails, another is pinched off its engine and relocated to the one that needs it.
    It is now time to do some repairs and get them all back with their original engines.
    First cab off the ranks is the large hydrostatic from the Ingersol Rand air compressor.
    This involved something I haven't done before, a 'D' bit.

    Phil
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    Phil hooray:

    I was just taught by a master thanks Phil a most interesting post and lesson

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    Default A great story teller

    Hi Phil, you tell a great pictorial story, almost as good as being there, watching over your shoulder.

    The only thing missing was the swearing when you burnt your tongue on that hot pie from the Bakery.

    A great job, the "Hill" should double the gold bars they pay you.

    Ken

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    Default Real Craftsman at Work!

    Hello Phil and readers,
    Thanks for so carefully demonstrating you superb skills once again. I ask myself how our heritage sites will survive when the people of Phil's generation finally pass on. Hope we have some keen learners in the pipeline. Great work,
    Combustor.
    Old iron in the Outback, Kimberley WA.

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    Thanks for the tease Phil, playing with all the cool toys you are supplied with. Nice pictorial how to as well.
    Thanks again
    Kryn

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    Default Apprentices at the 'Hill"

    Phil, following on from Combustor, do you have apprentices training along side of you?

    Indeed, what would happen if you got crook and couldn't turn up for work?

    On a side note, what's happening on the home shed front?

    I know, I'm a bit of a sticky beak.

    Ken

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