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    Default New Visby dimensions

    Hi everyone..

    My name is Adam and I'm new around here. I have just purchased a Purcell New Visby lathe online.. partly because I love tinkering, and restoring a lathe sounds like it could be fun albeit slightly challenging, and partly because the cheap taiwanese lathe that I had in my garage has gone back to its owner!

    The most immediate issue I have will be moving it across Sydney.. With this in mind, I was wondering if anyone either knows the over all dimensions including gross weight or could point me in the right direction to find them online? I have looked at Purcell Lathes, Visby, New Visby, Conemaster & Record lathes but it lacked the info that I am after..

    Also given that it is probably bigger and heavier than I am assuming, does anyone have any suggestions regarding transporting it from Seven Hills to Mascot in Sydney? Would it be worth my while engaging professional movers or is it relatively simple to put it on a flat bed trailer? Sorry if this is a silly question.

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    Hi Adam,
    First up, welcome to our MetalWork Forum.

    You may be wondering why your post needs moderating. All new members who wish to post pics are auto moderated until post ten.
    The reason is that potential spammers are prevented form just joining and posting.

    If you want to introduce yourself, you can find the welcome wagon by going to the Forum box in the top LH cnr, then click Forum Home.

    Scroll down the page until you reach The Welcome Wagon .You will see the other areas of interest we have on the forum on the way down.

    Please consider changing your location from Sydney to your local suburb. It elps if someone wants to offer on the spot help,for them to know your close by rather then them having to drive across the city.

    Welcome again.

    I am sure someone will be along shortly to offer advice or encouragement.

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    At an eyeball weight estimate I would say 1.6 tonnes give or take. I have moved a fair few machines this size or bigger. A flat truck with mounted crane is the best, fastest way. I do not waste my time trying to get stuff like this onto tilt trays or trailers.

    Moving machinery is no joke, very easy to make painful mistakes.

    When you move it, make sure you don't sling it under the bed or from the spindle.

    Edit - congrats on buying what looks a capable machine and good luck, welcome to the forum

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    Hi and Welcome to a TOP FORUM.
    I can't give any details on your machine, but found this that might help with some of your questions.

    Purcell Lathes, Visby, New Visby, Conemaster & Record lathes
    Kryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    Hi Adam,
    First up, welcome to our MetalWork Forum.

    You may be wondering why your post needs moderating. All new members who wish to post pics are auto moderated until post ten.
    The reason is that potential spammers are prevented form just joining and posting.
    Thanks for the welcome Grahame.. All good mate. I have also added a post to the welcome wagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    At an eyeball weight estimate I would say 1.6 tonnes give or take. I have moved a fair few machines this size or bigger. A flat truck with mounted crane is the best, fastest way. I do not waste my time trying to get stuff like this onto tilt trays or trailers.

    Moving machinery is no joke, very easy to make painful mistakes.

    When you move it, make sure you don't sling it under the bed or from the spindle.

    Edit - congrats on buying what looks a capable machine and good luck, welcome to the forum
    Hi caskwarrior,

    Thanks for that. Yeah I haven't seen the lathe in person but it looks heavy. In your experience where is the best place to sling from with these types of machines? Do they have facility for attaching lifting eyebolts? The truck/crane method sounds easiest..

    Cheers,

    Flo

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    Hi and Welcome to a TOP FORUM.
    I can't give any details on your machine, but found this that might help with some of your questions.

    Purcell Lathes, Visby, New Visby, Conemaster & Record lathes
    Kryn
    Hi Kryn,

    Thanks for the suggestion. I did come across that link you mentioned and they had some good info.. just not the dimensional info that I wanted ..

    Cheers,
    Flo

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    The normal way for most lathes is two sets of through holes, one in each pedestal or each end of the bed that you put bars through and then sling from the bars.

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    @caskwarrior

    That sounds fair.. I don't know whether this lathe has through holes though.. the pictures that I have seen don't suggest there are holes. Perhaps someone who has one might be able to confirm this..?

    I'd like to get this thing home in one piece and as warp free as possible..

    Flo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flo View Post
    Hi caskwarrior,

    Thanks for that. Yeah I haven't seen the lathe in person but it looks heavy. In your experience where is the best place to sling from with these types of machines? Do they have facility for attaching lifting eyebolts? The truck/crane method sounds easiest..

    Cheers,

    Flo
    Please keep in mind that lathes are generally very top heavy and will do a face plant in a heartbeat if you don't pay close attention.

    I'd be using a crane truck myself and I've moved a lot of machinery. That's my preferred method for a machine like this. Tilt trays are great for machines that aren't top heavy and have big integral bases.

    Agree on the weight estimate of 1.5 tonnes plus/minus. Too much to fool with.

    PDW

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    @PDW

    Thanks for the reply. I guess my concern is that I might use somebody to move this machine that doesn't really understand the issues that you and caskwarrior have mentioned and I end up with a damaged machine..

    Do you have any suggestions as to how to properly sling it? Also can you recommend any good operators in Sydney who might be able to accomplish this move?

    Cheers,

    Flo

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    HiThe crane truck is the answer. They usually have a articulated crane called a HIAB just behind the cab

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    Thanks for the replies..

    Well I have decided that a HIAB truck will be the easiest and safest option so we'll see how it goes.. I hope it fits in my garage!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    The normal way for most lathes is two sets of through holes, one in each pedestal or each end of the bed that you put bars through and then sling from the bars.

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    I agree with CW that a common way of shifting lathes is as he said, by slinging around bars poked through holes cast into the main casting just for this very purpose. However I can't see any such holes on this lathe, so you may have to sling around the webs between the lathe ways. You could sling around the bed IMO, but you would need to use soft slings, and pack them out from any control rods, feed rods or the leadscrew, so that no forces came to bear on them. the soft slings should be choke hitched to avoid any slipping. Take the carriage up to the tailstock end, and either remove the tailstock or at the very least clamp it down to prevent movement. As several others have mentioned, lathes are very top-heavy, and really want to fall over, so the lifting and also the securing onto the truck need to be done keeping this in mind. Ideally block the feet (bases) in and secure the lathe with opposing slings coming from the upper parts of the machine to each corner of the tray of the truck carrying it, don't just run your slings from one corner, up over the lathe and then down to the other side corner, otherwise the lathe can just slip through your securing slings.
    If you have shorter rigging going to the headstock end, and a bit longer rigging going to the lighter tailstock end, you may be able to use the carriage to ballance the load by shifting it to the point which levels the lathe.
    The crane truck operator will almost certainly know what he is doing, but you need to make sure that he is aware that he shouldn't use wire ropes or chains on precision machined surfaces. Good luck

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    Thanks for the detailed response Ropetangler. I can't see any holes either which makes it a little more challenging to move. I'll be engaging a professional to move this machine but I wanted some advice to ensure that had an idea of what should and should not happen.

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