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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    Do you mean a Rong Fu?
    Spell check does me in again. Yes Rong Fu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    these are great, but they’d be 1.5t+ and in NSW..
    Yes, I realise that they're a bit on the heavy side and in NSW, but if you're looking for a solid machine, that's what you're going to be looking at. My listing them here, was to show you that the equipment is out there, and you may have to travel for it, ask Caskwarrior, he came to Adelaide for a Lathe, and a few months later went to Albury area to collect another machine.

    As pipeclay mentioned, you haven't stated what you're planning to do on it, if we knew, that would help us help you?
    Are you planning on using it for clock making, model railway, miniature cars, restoring a steam locomotive, as you can see size is everything.
    You have a budget for the machine, but have you allowed for tooling? This could easily quadruple what you had as a budget for the machine, depending again what you plan to do with it. There's plenty of cheap stuff out there, but that leads to dismal quality of work, as if it's from China for example, the metal is nothing more that a high carbon mild steel.
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    Currently I’m building a hillclimb car, but who knows what I may build in the future..
    I would eventually like to purchase a good Bridgeport, when money and space allows. For the time being, a small drill mill, like a Rong Fu would suffice.

    At the moment, most of the work I do is with alloy, but I do work with some steel.

    Budget, I could spend 15-1800ish.

    I have tooling, which strangely, came with my lathe!

    Sorry for lack info, I originally just wanted information on the eBay job. I didn’t realise you guys could be so helpful!


    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    Yes, I realise that they're a bit on the heavy side and in NSW, but if you're looking for a solid machine, that's what you're going to be looking at. My listing them here, was to show you that the equipment is out there, and you may have to travel for it, ask Caskwarrior, he came to Adelaide for a Lathe, and a few months later went to Albury area to collect another machine.

    As pipeclay mentioned, you haven't stated what you're planning to do on it, if we knew, that would help us help you?
    Are you planning on using it for clock making, model railway, miniature cars, restoring a steam locomotive, as you can see size is everything.
    You have a budget for the machine, but have you allowed for tooling? This could easily quadruple what you had as a budget for the machine, depending again what you plan to do with it. There's plenty of cheap stuff out there, but that leads to dismal quality of work, as if it's from China for example, the metal is nothing more that a high carbon mild steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    Sorry for lack info, I originally just wanted information on the eBay job. I didn’t realise you guys could be so helpful!
    Lol sometimes we get so helpful you end up questioning your whole plan by the end , but it's a two-way street; the more info you can give, the better/more relevant the advice will be

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    Of course! Well, I hope I've filled in any blanks...

    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    Lol sometimes we get so helpful you end up questioning your whole plan by the end , but it's a two-way street; the more info you can give, the better/more relevant the advice will be

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    Yeah got the same looking head on my "toy unit".

    Really its no more than a gloried drill. Had no problems to date with the head itself, but you can just tell that it wont do several years of hard work.

    My 2 cents worth -- do as much of the work as you can on the lathe. Why? a few inserts and some HSS are cheaper than milling cutters!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jatt View Post
    Yeah got the same looking head on my "toy unit".

    Really its no more than a gloried drill. Had no problems to date with the head itself, but you can just tell that it wont do several years of hard work.

    My 2 cents worth -- do as much of the work as you can on the lathe. Why? a few inserts and some HSS are cheaper than milling cutters!!!
    There in lies the issue - I’ve done all I can do on my little Qualos..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    Currently I’m building a hillclimb car, but who knows what I may build in the future..
    I would eventually like to purchase a good Bridgeport, when money and space allows. For the time being, a small drill mill, like a Rong Fu would suffice. \
    Those actually aren't too bad a design of a machine, if only they'd build them to a decent level of tolerance. But at the bottom end of the price range, there's no way that's going to happen. It takes a lot better machinery, care & attention to setups and/or more hand fitting. Sorry but them's the facts.

    What you absolutely have to do is decide what your max work envelope is going to be in the immediate future, what materials you are going to machine, what tolerances you're prepared to accept and what surface finish you're going to accept. Those things dictate the machine you have to have.

    If the indicated machine is unavailable or unaffordable, you need to adjust your requirements accordingly.

    I have some very heavy machinery and a quite lightweight mill as well. That mill is fine for plastics, aluminium and steels if I'm prepared to take light cuts and creep up on dimensions. Where in the big mill I can cut a keyway recess in a single pass and know it'll be on size, on the baby mill I might use a 6mm cutter for an 8mm key, take out the middle and then take clean-up cuts on the flanks.

    If an ozmestore mill is the one you can afford, buy it and learn from it. Just do it with eyes open WRT what you're actually going to be getting.

    The others are right about tooling though. A lathe is pretty cheap to tool up. With a mill, it gets expensive. Doubling the basic cost of the machine is by no means unusual. At minimum you need a set of collets, a clamp kit and a vise. Sky is the limit from there.

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    Personally speaking, I wouldn't let the machines location (within reason) put you off. Hire a car trailer, if you don't already have one for your hillclimb car, get a mate to come along and make a road trip. A day to get there, and another to get home. With luck you may be able top do it in a week end. For the type of machine you are considering, you wouldn't need the trailer, just a ute or small van or even a medium sized car would suffice. This machine currently on offer for $2500, https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mait...ine/1213724768 looks to be a lot of machine for the money, and is an example of what is out there from time to time if you don't need it yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropetangler View Post
    Personally speaking, I wouldn't let the machines location (within reason) put you off. Hire a car trailer, if you don't already have one for your hillclimb car, get a mate to come along and make a road trip. A day to get there, and another to get home. With luck you may be able top do it in a week end. For the type of machine you are considering, you wouldn't need the trailer, just a ute or small van or even a medium sized car would suffice. This machine currently on offer for $2500, https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mait...ine/1213724768 looks to be a lot of machine for the money, and is an example of what is out there from time to time if you don't need it yesterday.

    That would be over a ton, wouldn't it?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    That would be over a ton, wouldn't it?!
    Quite possibly it would be, but they would have the details in the manuals which the seller says comes with the machine. If you are tempted, I would contact them to ask, after all that bit is free, and it seems that they are negotiable too, maybe one or both vices at a good deal, you will never know if you don't ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropetangler View Post
    Quite possibly it would be, but they would have the details in the manuals which the seller says comes with the machine. If you are tempted, I would contact them to ask, after all that bit is free, and it seems that they are negotiable too, maybe one or both vices at a good deal, you will never know if you don't ask.
    Very true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    That would be over a ton, wouldn't it?!
    From the ebay page it's 340 kg shipping weight
    Would quite easily fit in a trailer / ute

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGMachining View Post
    From the ebay page it's 340 kg shipping weight
    Would quite easily fit in a trailer / ute
    I was talking about the big Japanese one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    I was talking about the big Japanese one..
    Way more than a tonne IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if it was closer to 3 tonnes than 2. Not a machine to buy as your first mill, really. Almost certainly 3 phase as well.

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