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27th Feb 2019, 07:18 PM #1New Member
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help identify lathe
hi all,
i am trying to identify this lathe, i hope someone can help me as i have exhausted all avenues of identification...many thanks in advancelathe5.jpglathe3.jpglathe6.jpg
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27th Feb 2019, 09:41 PM #2Most Valued Member
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Hi Chris, have you checked with Lathes + Machine Tool Archive, they have an enormous listing of lathes from different manufacturers all over the world.
If you can't find it there I suggest you send a pic/s to Tony and see what he can come up with, BUT check for yourself first.
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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27th Feb 2019, 09:50 PM #3Most Valued Member
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Can you give us some close up photos of the screw cutting and feeds labels, is the leadscrew metric? It looks German to me, and has some nice details. I don't like the crude v belt conversion though.
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28th Feb 2019, 12:02 AM #4New Member
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Hi guys
thanks for your assistance. Yes Kryn I have gone right through the online archive and wasn’t able to find it. There were similar ones but not the same. Here’s some more pics. I’m contemplating purchasing this one however very reluctant as the modifications and lack of parts. sorry cask warrior these are all the pics i have and yes the v belt mod is a bit rough
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28th Feb 2019, 09:20 AM #5Most Valued Member
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Well it's pretty old, I'd say inter war. But it does have all its accessories including steadies and look like a well made machine.
It will all come down to bed wear, take a dial indicator and run it off the carriage onto the ways but well ahead and see how much of a dip you get as you run it forwards.
I'd say it's worth $800 or so, looks bigger than a Hercus but has a gap, does the gap piece come with the machine?
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28th Feb 2019, 10:26 AM #6New Member
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HI cask warrior,
thanks for the feedback. what do you think is a acceptable bed wear amount.? Also is there any easy way of telling from the photos if its a plain or roller bearing mount? in case these are worn out im concerned i wont be able to replace them. Also im not sure about if the gap comes with or not. Also im not sure if all the thread cogs are there,Im thinking i should wait to find a herkus model c simply because of available parts
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28th Feb 2019, 10:28 AM #7New Member
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28th Feb 2019, 11:55 AM #8Most Valued Member
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Looking at the oilers on top of the headstock spindle bearings I'd bet money on it being a plain bearing lathe. Top speed limited to maybe 600 rpm because of that.
Frankly unless it's pretty cheap and the sliding ways have little wear I'd pass on it.
There's a pretty nice looking Colchester Student on eBay for less than $2K ATM. If in good shape that'd be a far, far, FAR better machine than the one you're looking at, or any Hercus ever made.
PDW
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28th Feb 2019, 12:53 PM #9Golden Member
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What information is shown on the plate on the left hand end of the headstock casting in the first photo? If it is a list of the various gear combinations to cut the various thread pitches you can find if any thread cutting gears are missing by making a list of all the gears shown on the plate including any duplicates. There will probably be at least one duplicate pair. Missing gears can be cut if stock gears from one of the commercial gear suppliers are not available, but they are not cheap.
Frank.
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28th Feb 2019, 01:19 PM #10Most Valued Member
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Looks like a large quantity of change gears are there and it does have a limited quick change box. I would probably take this over a Hercus TBH it looks a lot less dinky, plain bearings if lubricated will last an extremely long time.
I would think any more than .003" in the 10 inches in front of the chuck would be the limit I would accept. If it has millions of dings that's also a bad sign but from what I can tell this looks decent.
All depends on the price.
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28th Feb 2019, 01:21 PM #11Most Valued Member
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Although on second thought it's a bad sign that is doesn't have big drip oilers, I find anything with those flip oilers either gets neglected or full of gunk or both. Needs a careful owner to survive.
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1st Mar 2019, 12:31 PM #12New Member
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thanks cask warrior, i think ill leave it cheers....its a great looking machine though
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13th Mar 2019, 11:39 AM #13Senior Member
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It's very similar to my old lathe.
I'd say it's a Colchester.
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