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26th Dec 2018, 02:47 PM #31Intermediate Member
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26th Dec 2018, 03:07 PM #32Novice
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I do not have a lathe, if I did then yes I could do it. I am not the brains in this endeavour. The plans come from two blokes who are professional medicine men and I am simple doing what I am told.
Everything else has been sorted, these plates are the last components I could not purchase of the shelf. An electrician wired up the boiler with a 20amp heating element, a thermowell with sensor connected to a custom PID controller. The rest is about 40 assorted pieces of 3 meters of 4" copper tube, 4" copper pluming fittings, stainless tri-clover clamps and chemical resistant gaskets that will be assembled into three major modular components. That can be broken down, cleaned and stored. With the easy option to repair or replace if a single part ever breaks down.
I am building a beast, yes its overkill but I will never have to build another. Most blokes start building simple setups and over time add ever more complex components. But I think they enjoy the building as much as the end product.
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26th Dec 2018, 03:19 PM #33Philomath in training
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No pressure then...
Michael
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26th Dec 2018, 08:08 PM #34Most Valued Member
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Yep - looks exactly the same as a couple of marine heat exchangers I've got floating about the place (and the one in my boat).
Mine are bronze, brazed tube assemblies with bolt-on end caps for cleaning and removal of marine fouling. Much smaller diameter tubes and a lot more of them. One I have has aluminium end caps because that part is never (in theory) in contact with salt water, only the engine coolant.
Bowman make these things, incidentally.
An interesting project but if the end caps are to be TIG welded in place, I don't like the design because it's impossible to properly clean by disassembly and rodding out the tubes. OK, sure, you can purge with chemicals, back-flush, whatever. I still don't like it. That's why every heat exchanger I've ever seen or had my hands on has removable end caps.
Incidentally Prochem has every stainless fitting you could possibly need and are really good to deal with. At least, the Hobart branch is. There's a hell of a lot of custom stainless plumbing TIG welded together in my boat.
PDW
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26th Dec 2018, 08:20 PM #35Novice
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Cleaning heat exchangers are a pain. The standard way with dealing with it in brewing is to soak in caustic soda then flushed with water and then phosphoric acid rinse. This helps to clean any organic matter out of the system. Most brewers use something like this. No way of opening it up pulling it apart and the caustic/phosphoric gets all the way through. Remember if even a single bad microbe makes it into your beer it can ruin the whole batch.However in this case vapour is the only thing to ever enter this system and worst case I am sure the caustic can get into a 12.7mm hole.
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27th Dec 2018, 11:22 AM #36Most Valued Member
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27th Dec 2018, 02:38 PM #37Novice
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Like all things it's simple in practice and as difficult as you want to make it.
Find someone local to hold your hand, a brew club, a brew store, a mate who can actually brew then jump in.
Expect ups and downs, take risks.
The only rules are be methodical, be meticulously clean, keep records so when things go right so you know why and when they go wrong, drink, learn & drink again.
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27th Dec 2018, 06:25 PM #38Most Valued Member
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Given the vast excess of apples my trees produce I'm leaning more towards champagne cider.
Can always distill it & make scrumpy (or applejack, same same).
PDW
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27th Dec 2018, 07:10 PM #39Novice
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27th Dec 2018, 10:13 PM #40Diamond Member
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27th Dec 2018, 10:17 PM #41Novice
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