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    Default Waldown 2M spindle won't go back into quill after teardown. ..help!

    I recently got my hands on a 2M and proceeded over the last week to tear it down, remove a bunch of rust and remove all the old grease etc.

    Ive regrease an oiled everything only to find the spindle just won't go back into the quill. Im only trying by hand but it shouldn't need anything more being what it is and how easily i separated the two.
    There was another post here where someone couldn't get there's out and a response suggested not to hammer the thing because the spindle isn't hardened so i haven't tried that.

    I did stupidly grease it all up with bearing grease not spindle oil in my rush to get it back together. I know the two are a tight fit but can't imagine trying to Push the spindle in just by hand as hard as i could would have damaged anything.
    While our the spindle and qiill haven't sustained any knocks or drops either.

    Yesterday i picked up some goodies from a guy shutting up his fabrication business and figure I'd ask him given his decades if experience. He looked at them and thought there might be a small burr it something and suggested tapping with a soft face hammer should remove it and do the trick....what are people's thoughts? Or any other suggestions?
    I'll post some pics once i can figure our how to from this Dann phone browser.

    I'm eager to get i all back together and use it but don't want to ruin the spindle by doing something wrong.

    Bug thanks in advance for any help 👍

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    Could be that the quill splines are only a good fit in one orientation. I would normally assemble it vertically so the quill is pointing into the sky, hammer shouldn't be needed but a soft blow won't hurt anything.

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    Finally got the photo issue sorted.
    This is where i'm at, i can only get the spindle sitting a little down and then it jams.
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    I've taken some close ups of the splines etc in case one of you ggurus can spot any damage that would be enough to cause the problem.
    The female section (sorry don't know the terminology for the two parts I'm trying to mate in their own) has some damage/wear i can see but im not sure it's enough to be the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    Could be that the quill splines are only a good fit in one orientation. I would normally assemble it vertically so the quill is pointing into the sky, hammer shouldn't be needed but a soft blow won't hurt anything.
    Thanks caskwarrior 👍
    So you mean flipped 180 degrees from how i have it here?
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    If you can wait until Monday you can bring it down to my workshop and we can pop it back together, I can't see anything obviously wrong there though. If you have some bearing blue you could blue up the female spline and see if it's catching. These things are very much a matter of feel.

    How far can you get it into the housing currently before it binds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    If you can wait until Monday you can bring it down to my workshop and we can pop it back together, I can't see anything obviously wrong there though. If you have some bearing blue you could blue up the female spline and see if it's catching. These things are very much a matter of feel.

    How far can you get it into the housing currently before it binds?
    That's an incredibly generous offer, thanks!
    I drove 3 hours out to Gippsland and back in that really wet Friday a couple of weeks back to collect it and id hate to damage such a key part now.
    It's the first time I've ever torn down and overhauled a drill press so my feel for this is limited but i understand what you mean.
    I'll OM you when i get in this afternoon about Monday, doing this from my phone is painful!

    I'm getting it probably 15 or 20mm down and it's binding, do just out of sight below that inner lio in this photo.
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    And no that 3 in 1 oil is going nowhere near this either ☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    Could be that the quill splines are only a good fit in one orientation. I would normally assemble it vertically so the quill is pointing into the sky, hammer shouldn't be needed but a soft blow won't hurt anything.
    Isnt a soft blow a hammer?

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    Sorry that wasn't clear, there have been many times that I shouldnt have used a leather etc hammer, but had to use one anyway.

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    Hi Bamsyn,

    You would be surprised by how little it takes to cause a jam in those parts. Clean thoroughly and feel very carefully for any burrs or dings wherever two parts mate.

    With soft materials putting the shaft down on a bolt or nut laying on the bench can damage a surface and you may never see it, till it causes a problem and then you have to find where it is !
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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