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    Default 14" Steelfast/Woodfast Bandsaw

    Hi all, in the past couple of weeks two 14" Steelfast/Woodfast (they both have a back geared gearbox for cutting metals) bandsaws have come my way. One is for my father and one for me. My fathers (the nicer looking one) needs new tyres on its wheels. I notice nowadays tyres come in a ring that can be stretched over the wheel but what does one do about getting camber on the wheel? Or should I say what is the best way to fix these specific bandsaws?

    Here is a photo of each.
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    The wheels usually have a camber machined into them. If they don't and all you can find is a flat tyre then something like a strip of electrical tape say 5mm wide is all that is needed on the wheel (under the tyre) to create enough camber.

    We have one of those SteelFast saws at the mens shed. Given I went to a fair bit of trouble to get hold of it for the shed, I am somewhat disappointed with it compared to horizontal BSs. The throat limit is a major factor with the SteelFast and the other is having to hold teh stock while cutting compare to being able to set up and walk away from the horizontal saw while it cuts the stock and then turns itself off. The advantages of being able to cut into the ends of long stock and cutting medium-wide curves in sheet are things I have only used about once per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    The wheels usually have a camber machined into them. If they don't and all you can find is a flat tyre then something like a strip of electrical tape say 5mm wide is all that is needed on the wheel (under the tyre) to create enough camber.

    We have one of those SteelFast saws at the mens shed. Given I went to a fair bit of trouble to get hold of it for the shed, I am somewhat disappointed with it compared to horizontal BSs. The throat limit is a major factor with the SteelFast and the other is having to hold teh stock while cutting compare to being able to set up and walk away from the horizontal saw while it cuts the stock and then turns itself off. The advantages of being able to cut into the ends of long stock and cutting medium-wide curves in sheet are things I have only used about once per year.
    Bob,

    I have a horizontal bandsaw too so the limitations in that direction are not an issue for me. The ability to use it for cutting wood occasionally is going to be a boon. I will peel the rubber of the one with dodgy one and see if the wheel has camber.

    Eric

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    Hi Eric, Contact Steve or Graham at Woodworking Solutions (08) 8241 2205 They used to be Woodfast and before that they worked for Woodfast Australia before it was sold to the Chinese. They should be able to help you out as they do rebanding of the Bandsaw Wheels. You'll find them at 1174 Old Port Road, Royal Park, <a href="http://www.woodworkingsolutions.com.au/store/Bandsaw-Wheel-Restoration-c29239982" target="_blank">403 Forbidden</a><br>
    Bandsaw Wheels - Removing existing tyres, vulcanizing new rubber tyres $165.00<br>
    Bandsaw Wheels from 14" (350mm) diameter to 39" (1000mm) can have the rubber tyres completely restored.<br>
    Service provided: Removing existing tyres, vulcanizing new rubber tyres, camber grinding of new tyres and balancing completed wheel. 14" (350mm) to 18" (460mm) wheel diameters each wheel.<br>By the way, you're never going to get the shed finished, if you keep getting and playing with more toys!!!!!<br>
    Hope this helps you and others here.<br>
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    Are you sure it has tyres some metal cutting bandsaws have no tyres

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    Quote Originally Posted by China View Post
    Are you sure it has tyres some metal cutting bandsaws have no tyres
    I have two of them and they both have tyres, also the wheels are only aluminium so wouldn't do well with blades running directly on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    Bandsaw Wheels - Removing existing tyres, vulcanizing new rubber tyres $165.00<br>
    Bandsaw Wheels from 14" (350mm) diameter to 39" (1000mm) can have the rubber tyres completely restored.<br>
    Service provided: Removing existing tyres, vulcanizing new rubber tyres, camber grinding of new tyres and balancing completed wheel. 14" (350mm) to 18" (460mm) wheel diameters each wheel.<br>By the way, you're never going to get the shed finished, if you keep getting and playing with more toys!!!!!<br>
    Hope this helps you and others here.<br>
    Kryn
    That seems somewhat expensive as it is per wheel. In regards to getting the shed finished people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

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    It is a tad expensive, but when you know what you're doing, you know it's worth it.
    Yes I know people in glass houses etc. but volunteering and work tends to get in the way.
    Hopefully by the middle of next month, I'll be able to get stuck into it.
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    Not sure whether they still do, but push bikes used to have a rubber strip running around the inside of the rim. Probably you would be able to get that and glue it onto the rims. As for cambering the rims, I have seen pictures of wheels being attached to mill spindles and turning tools attached to the table as one way of turning large objects - in this case I think it was a model traction engine flywheel. Anyway, putting a camber on a wheel should not be difficult if it needs it.

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    I got my urethane tyres from

    https://sgtool.com/

    They made them to suit if I recall correctly...and they just stretched over the wheels
    cant recall if I got flats or got he ones with the camber

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    Quote Originally Posted by China View Post
    Are you sure it has tyres some metal cutting bandsaws have no tyres
    most metal bandsaws dont have tyres..the swarf would destroy the tyre in quicktime..??

    vertical wood bandsaws do tho..the teeth of the blade run close to the top of the camber..ie almost in centre of tyre

    open to be corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    I got my urethane tyres from

    https://sgtool.com/

    They made them to suit if I recall correctly...and they just stretched over the wheels
    cant recall if I got flats or got he ones with the camber
    Eskimo, I didn't even see your bandsaw, what make/model is it? Too much stuff in that shed!
    I have determined my wheels are flat so I am looking at getting cambered tyres.
    Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamestllama View Post
    Eskimo, I didn't even see your bandsaw, what make/model is it? Too much stuff in that shed!
    I have determined my wheels are flat so I am looking at getting cambered tyres.
    Eric
    Popped into the Mens shed yesterday and took a butchers at the 1965 Steelfast BS.

    There are thick (~8mm) rubber tyres on both wheels.
    The surface of the tyres have no camber and if anything they have a slightly concave surface.
    I suspect this is just due to tyre wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Popped into the Mens shed yesterday and took a butchers at the 1965 Steelfast BS.

    There are thick (~8mm) rubber tyres on both wheels.
    The surface of the tyres have no camber and if anything they have a slightly concave surface.
    I suspect this is just due to tyre wear.
    IMG_3438.jpg
    IMG_3439.jpg
    Thanks for those photo's Bob. I went to see the ex woodfast guys at 403 Forbidden they offer a service re-tyring these wheels and they should definitely have camber. Non of the off the shelf tyres seem anywhere thick enough and it makes a difference when trying to line up in the insert of the table. I am as yet holding out on spending $165 per wheel since I have 4 wheels in total.

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    How much extra diameter do you need? It may be easier to roll a strip of AL onto the wheel and then use thinner rubber.

    Michael

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