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16th Aug 2018, 05:53 PM #1Golden Member
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New to me Milling Machine - made in Poland
Hi All,
After years of wanting a milling machine I finally ended up with one suddenly, after stumbling accross a machine nearby. I had previously owned a big old Horizontal mill, but I didnt like working in that orientation. I sold that 5 years or more ago and have been plotting buying a vertical mill ever since. I had settled on an RF30 or similar and was looking for those second hand when I stumbled accross this machine 30 minutes from my house. It weighs 2350 kilos and I paid about thirty cents a kilo for it.
It has 18 speeds between 65 and 1800 rpms, 800mm of x axis travel, about 180mm of y xis travel and probably about 250mm of travel in the knee. All axis have power feed, including rapid, and it all works. In addition the quill extends 80mm. The spindle has an NMTB40 taper. Because the machine is european I am pretty sure its all metric however I cant find any markings to confirm. I measured the quill and the graduations are a really odd size - like .11mm between divisions .
The machine was built in 1964 according the oiling plate on the side. It has a 'made in poland' badge and 'Zaklady Przemyslowe 1 Maj' on it too, which according to google probably means 1 May Industries or similar (1 May being labor day). I dont think this is a brand, probably more a throwback to its communist origins.
Id love to know how this machine, which was made in the height of the cold war, ended up in Australia. Id also love to know what it was making in Poland during that era...
Now to make some chips - i need to buy some end mills but will post separately about that.
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16th Aug 2018, 07:02 PM #2Most Valued Member
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Congratulations - that's a serious mill. Not sure how fast the spindle goes but I really doubt you'll ever lack for HP & rigidity. I hope there's not any excessive wear but generally those type of machines were made to work hard for a long time, so probably a lot of life left in it yet.
PDW
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16th Aug 2018, 07:43 PM #3Diamond Member
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Good buy. Those Eastern block machines are pretty tough and reliable.
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16th Aug 2018, 07:51 PM #4Golden Member
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Thanks gents. I’ll try take measurements to determine wear as I get used to the machine. It all feels pretty good but that doesn’t mean much I spose
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16th Aug 2018, 08:37 PM #5Most Valued Member
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It looks like a variant of a K&T or Cincinnati vertical mill FWIW. Wouldn't be surprised if it was - the SovBloc copied a lot of Western designs.
Poland made really nice stuff - generally heavier than strictly needed, but the extra mass is not a problem, it's a bonus IMO. As long as you can move the thing - I had to pass on a really lovely Tos cylindrical grinder once because the freight bill was going to kill me.
PDW
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16th Aug 2018, 08:38 PM #6
Hi Brendan,
One hefty lump of goodness there. It looks to be a real workhorse.
I wonder if the machine is basically metric but calibrated to correspond to imperial. ie 10th mm = 3.9" thou, so 0.11 would be 4" thou.Best Regards:
Baron J.
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16th Aug 2018, 08:50 PM #7Most Valued Member
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Congratulations Brendan.
You must be pretty happy with yourself right now. Thats a seriously nice mill. Worth the wait IMHO.
Looking forward to see more pics and info.
Simon
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16th Aug 2018, 09:01 PM #8Golden Member
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I wonder if the machine is basically metric but calibrated to correspond to imperial. ie 10th mm = 3.9" thou, so 0.11 would be 4" thou.
hmmm, maybe it is imperial after all? I just assumed it was metric. Would be odd for an eastern bloc machine to be imperial though wouldn’t it?
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16th Aug 2018, 09:07 PM #9
Congratulations, very nice solid machine. As long as it has a small amount of wear there's many years of happiness there.
A quality machine like that looked after will last a lifetime in a home shop and give accurate results every time that you can count on.Using Tapatalk
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16th Aug 2018, 10:15 PM #12Golden Member
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Maybe I should test it with a Geiger counter ...
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17th Aug 2018, 12:37 PM #13Most Valued Member
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17th Aug 2018, 09:58 PM #14
Is the lubrication label original? I am quite sure machines from that era would not be labelled in English if they weren't specifically meant for export!
Peter
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17th Aug 2018, 11:03 PM #15Golden Member
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Not sure re how original it is... however can confirm that the lube chart has the year on it (1964) the model (Fyc-26) and a serial number too (20-11).
it also has the weight on it as 2350. I was wonderIng if that might be pounds but the forklift driver reckoned it was probably kilos.
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