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8th Aug 2018, 11:47 PM #31
Yes, they are separate. The QC gearbox filler is above the gearbox sight glass as you say, then if you look underneath, you'll see its drainplug. All separate from the main drive gearbox.
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8th Aug 2018, 11:56 PM #32Golden Member
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Thanks, so where exactly is the drain plug for the headstock?
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8th Aug 2018, 11:57 PM #33
Looks like you've been having pull-aparts fun. Lots of roll-pins, aye? And have you noticed the threaded holes for all the socket head cap screws were never cleaned of tapping swarf? I still recall discovering the machine had been spray-painted *after* assembly, so spray-painted grease! In the end I decided the AL-330 was a lathe kit that was intended to be rebuilt.
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9th Aug 2018, 12:00 AM #34
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9th Aug 2018, 12:13 AM #35Golden Member
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Yes, lots of fun..!
My AL330A suffered the same fate, tapping swarf and painted over grease, at least we can say the manufacturing was consistent
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10th Aug 2018, 09:35 AM #36Senior Member
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Idiot mate bought an AL-330A last week, when I asked where's the tailstock, he replied with what's a tailstock! Grime on the ways suggest it didn't fall off during transport, are there any places that carry them? Ringing around for him, H & F don't seem to keep that particular spare...and then there's centre height concerns I guess....but can't imagine the factory was too particular there anyhow, ha.
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10th Aug 2018, 11:05 AM #37
Well its obvious you didn't recieve the special extras like casting sand still in the oil sump and the special "painted during a sandstorm while in the Mongolian desert, finish " - just take it back then, its not a REAL chinese lathe.
Re the bloke with the missing Tailstock- just a chance that it may be in the base /cupboard with the four jaw chuck.
They are sometimes used as ballast to offset the top-heavy lathe weight when being slung for lifting.
Grahame
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11th Aug 2018, 03:46 PM #38Most Valued Member
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Ha when i inherited my lathe from my dad i didnt know one end from the other. The tailstock could have fallen off and i would never haved missed it!
Simon
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11th Aug 2018, 09:16 PM #39
I wondered what that lump of metal lying in the road was
Best Regards:
Baron J.
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11th Aug 2018, 11:23 PM #40
Something people should know is that some auctioneers have not got a clue about what the are selling.
Its up to the buyer to inspect the items before the auction and be sure on what is bidding for.
I was witness to the local TAFE auction,s some years back. Where the accessories -ie chucks and various tooling had not been sorted, ID'd and classified and the result was bundles of chucks and tooling offered as lots with no identifiable connection to the machine they were originall used with.
I was gob smacked at the prices bid on worn out units.
Grahame
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13th Aug 2018, 12:50 PM #41Senior Member
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Yup, seems to happen a lot. A local auction place here had a Hembrug DR1LS I was interested in, with just the 3 jaw on it. Looking through some other machinery there was another locked cabinet under another piece of machinery that I was able to pry open enough and shine a light in there revealing a 4 jaw, fixed and travelling steadies, collets, change gears etc all for the Hembrug. Given I was interested in the lathe I badly needed those bits and talked to the auction house about the situation and they opened the cabinet and reacquainted the Hembrug with her missing bits which I was surprised about. I didn't buy the lathe in the end but I bet the new owner was glad I reunited the tooling I'm sure.
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23rd Dec 2018, 07:57 PM #42Senior Member
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Got around to helping old mate with his lathe today....he's attempted to use it a couple of times where you need two hands on the carriage handwheel to move it, thought feed lever might be engaged, but no! Should require a finger to spin it from one end of the bed to the other on something this size going by Weilers, etc.
I suspect with the paint being pristine and tiny amounts of swarf in the pan, it's had next to zero use over 12 years on the plus side. I've given all the dry ball oilers a full lube and drenched the ways, checked the carriage lock and released the gibs, but it's still as stiff as a board....not totally interested in pulling the apron for him for full investigation though. Amazingly found what looks like spring loaded detents in the pan, that didn't get thrown out with the magnetic wand debris clean out, nothing seems to show up on the grizzly parts G4003 breakdown, anyone recognize them as being part of the machine?
All the oils were no doubt original too, lots of sand and filings in the headstock as per Chinese practice. The rear spindle bearing, unless there's some sort of drilling in a steel shield covering it, which isn't visible up top, I'm perplexed how it gets lubrication, short of being a sealed bearing. The headstock casting has the same boss front and rear below the oil "channel" up top, front bearing has a drilling, nothing for the back one. Anyone have an oil feed there, maybe explaining this a Monday lathe?
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23rd Dec 2018, 09:26 PM #43Philomath in training
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They look a bit like the detents used in camlock chuck mounts.
Michael
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23rd Dec 2018, 09:33 PM #44Most Valued Member
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Hi there,
the headstock on my lathe is exactly the same. A small hole in the top lip to allow gravity fed oil into the front spindle bearing but nothing for the rear. If it's like my lathe, you need not worry about a lack of lubrication to the rear spindle bearing; if you remove the rear labrynth oil seal and run the lathe you will see plenty of oil oozing out of the rear bearing.
Not sure where those detent parts are from. My lathe is pretty much an exact copy of a Grizzly 4003. I have literally had every nut, bolt and bearing apart on my lathe and I can't remember seeing anything like those parts.
Edit: I think Michael is correct.
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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23rd Dec 2018, 10:30 PM #45Senior Member
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The detent did look a touch familiar, was thinking there might be something for gear selection for a more positive feel on the levers, but couldn't find anything. It is a bit of a worry, hope they are out of the missing 4 jaw rather than the 3 jaw installed on the machine....he's also missing the key to undo the chuck for extra points.
Originally Posted by simonl
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