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26th Mar 2018, 12:49 AM #1Novice
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Help identifying model of Her less mill
Hi all
Long time member and lurker but first time poster.
I've recently inherited a Herless vertical mill but there's no tag with the model number. It has a Compton Parke's single phase motor. There is up and down movement in the shaft inside the quill that I obviously need to remove but am a bit insure at this stage how. Please excuse me if I use the wrong names but I'm new to milling.
I'm hoping somebody here can help me identify the model so I can attempt to find an exploded view and/or manual. Picture for information. It was originally a blue/green light hammer finish but my uncle seemed to repaint almost everything grey.
Thanks in advance...Andrew
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30th Mar 2018, 06:01 PM #2Senior Member
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Hi Andrew.
Looks like a Herless RF30.
Made by Rong Fu
Neil
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30th Mar 2018, 06:41 PM #3Novice
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Thanks Neil. I actually found can reference to an RF30a last night and tend to agree with you. Any idea where I could find a manual? I'm new to milling but having a ball. My uncle tended to get lots of accessories for anything he bought so I've got plenty of cutters. Same goes for the Wabeco lathe as well as a multitude of Stahwille, Bacho and Britool spanners. He was a bachelor and worked as a mechanic and engineer all his life. The collection was split between 3 and I don't think I'll ever have to buy another tool. Having fun as I'm on long service leave and retire in 2 weeks. Never been busier. Cheers...Andrew
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31st Mar 2018, 03:17 PM #4China
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Looks very similar to mine, Long Chang Machinery Co. ( Taiwan ) even though mine is old I sent them a email with the detail and the sent me a PDF of the manual, I would send you a copy however it is on my old other computer and
I am having a great amount of difficulty retrieving any data from it
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31st Mar 2018, 04:26 PM #5Novice
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Thanks China. It could be Chinese but knowing how my uncle was he wouldn't buy it. I know he had it about 45 years but that's all I know. Should have asked him before he died. Not sure whether he bought it new.
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1st Apr 2018, 06:36 PM #6China
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It is without a doubt Chinese/Taiwanese, it is just branded Herless, the one I have is at least 20 years old (not Herless)
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2nd Apr 2018, 10:56 PM #7
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3rd Apr 2018, 02:03 AM #8China
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Thanks BaronJ.
may give that a try I have 3 000 photo's I want to retrieve among other things, a over the phone diagnosis is the hard drive may be mechanically worn out.
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4th Apr 2018, 06:06 AM #9
Hi China,
I've yet to see a mechanically worn out HDD ! Crashed, Yes, dropped or otherwise damaged, Yes !
I would suggest that the most common failure mode for a HDD is electronic. With the advent of "Lead Free" solder, cracked or dry joints are more likely. The most common place for this kind of failure is right behind the connectors, where some movement can take place when the plugs are inserted and removed.
Before anybody else comments, yes, cracked solder joints are a mechanical failure, rather than worn out !
I have in the past swapped a bad circuit board out for a good one, just to recover a users data. Sadly that doesn't always work ! There is at least one IC inside the drive that can suffer failure. Once that dies the drive is toast, unless you are a very rich man.Best Regards:
Baron J.
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4th Apr 2018, 02:45 PM #10China
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Thanks BaronJ Iwill do some investigation
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5th Apr 2018, 07:46 PM #11Golden Member
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Hi China, If the HDD is not reading then try to wrap it up with zip bag and put in freezer for 30 minutes or so then try again. that saved me a few times in the past.
Hi Andrew, I used to have the "Rong Fu FR30" too, made in the 80s by Taiwanese. Try this link for the manual
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5th Apr 2018, 08:22 PM #12Golden Member
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i have a rebranded rf25 new sticker with hercus label so should be ok
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9th Apr 2018, 08:06 AM #13Novice
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Hi Jackaroo.
Thanks for the link. Your blood's worth bottling. A couple of differences but so close it will do. Much better than what I've got which is nothing. Thanks again...Andrew
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