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23rd Mar 2018, 09:29 PM #1Golden Member
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New machine day - 1981 2hp Series 1 Bridgeport
Hi all,
A new-to-me arrival. A non-working bridgy. I won it a fortnight ago at a Greys auction. It came home today. A shout out to the boys at PaulX crane trucks.
I got to inspect it before the auction and the spindle turned freely and, despite being filthy, seemed to be okay. A few obvious things to fix/replace - but worth a punt. A supervisor at the pickup site used to work in the toolroom were it lived and he said it needs a new belt. Said it broke about 12 months ago and they never fixed it. Cool, that stuff is available from the US. When operational and spruced up a little it'll be replacing my Herless knee mill from the same era.
I was pretty sure it was a US model, but it seems it was UK made but doesn't sport the usual 'adcock shipley' name on the ram. Here it is:
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After a quick clean saddle ways appear to be in good nick:
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Vertical no so good but such is life.
First question. I'd like to test the motor using the 2hp VFD that I have. The motor junction box looks like this:
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All forum disclaimers apply, but how might one reconnect these guys to delta wire it?
Greg.
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23rd Mar 2018, 10:44 PM #2Senior Member
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Hi Greg,
How much did that set you back?
Cheers
Piers
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23rd Mar 2018, 10:47 PM #3Senior Member
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Hi Greg
That looks like a good project, I like that hercus power hacksaw in the background too.
Keep us updated with your progress.
Cheers
Pete
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24th Mar 2018, 08:57 AM #4Golden Member
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First - I realised that re-wire question should go over in electrical - I'll repost there. It was a long day yesterday.
Pete - he heh .. that hacksaw look familiar eh!? ) It is the project for after the surface grinder (of which there has been some little progress but .. it seems I have been out of the shop for about 4 months - life).
Piers, this is the auction link:
http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0313-...ine-b?spr=true
$2099 + 15% buyers premium + $300 to get it craned home and assisted to 'drag' it on a pallet jack across 30 meter of cobbles to the garage. etc. So about $3k so far. Not too bad considering. I had been looking for a few years for the right price and location to crop up. People are asking silly prices these days - whether they are actually selling at those prices who knows. The fact that is was not working meant that it would exclude a bunch of buyers and the site is about 10klms away so I thought this might be my moment to have that punt.
Btw, I only learnt from the ex-staff member about the belt thing after the auction when picking it up - so, as the spindle turned and felt good, I was banking on electrics of a belt or something being the issue.
A top-end rebuild kits of belts and bushes and non-spindle bearings is about $300 US. I'll likely replace the leadscrew nuts and the (non-working) DRO so I guess about $1k in stuff to give it a refresh.
Not cheap, but that means a freshened up 'recent' model Bridgeport for circa $4k. Oh, without power feed - but you can get some cheap-ish if you can stomach a white plastic box hanging off the end of the table.
My Herless SM-1 vertical (knee) mill is a good mill so that'll go when this one is running and offset that cost somewhat.
Greg.
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24th Mar 2018, 11:06 AM #5Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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24th Mar 2018, 11:27 AM #6Golden Member
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Thanks Bob,
To keep moderators happy I'll answer with pic over on electrical if I may:
//metalworkforums.com/f309/t201...idgeport-motor
Greg.
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24th Mar 2018, 09:23 PM #7Senior Member
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Nice Vice
Hi Greg,
That is a nice looking vice, did it come with the mill, do you know what make it is? It looks Swiss/German.
It looks a bit big on the Bridgeport, might be better suited to a Deckel/Maho style mill....
Cheers
Piers
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24th Mar 2018, 09:39 PM #8Golden Member
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Hi Piers. You mean the viceosaurus. It sure is a lump innit. 90kg. 200mm x 310mm max jaw open. Geez.
I've got it on Gumtree for what I believe is about 40% of new price. It is waaaay to big for my needs so I'm flogging it to recoup some dosh. If anybody here is interested. Cool.
It is a Safeway mechanical/hydraulic pvh200.
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24th Mar 2018, 10:02 PM #9Senior Member
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90kg...that is massive.
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25th Mar 2018, 06:28 PM #10Golden Member
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hmm .. this might cause an issue ...
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Greg.
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25th Mar 2018, 07:33 PM #11.
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Come on Piers,
Swiss vices don't look like that, they look like this -
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Greg,
Back in 2010 I bought a book titled " A Guide to Renovating the Bridgeport Series 1 J Head Milling Machine ". 125 heavily illustrated pages with text suitable for the visually impaired. At the time I was Bridgeport tempted, came close to a purchase but was rescued by some of this forum's members. I doubt that I will ever acquire a BP given that I have now come to terms with the restricted work envelope of the 13.
Here is some blurb - https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Renovat.../dp/1482368005
The book is yours as a gift if you want it. If so send me your postal address via a PM.
Bob.
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25th Mar 2018, 07:45 PM #12Golden Member
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Many thanks Bob, I'll take it for sure. Much appreciated.
I have one for the South Bend 10L by the same author (SW Wells) and it was very helpful.
I'll PM you my address.
Thanks again,
Greg.
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