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6th Nov 2017, 09:36 AM #16Most Valued Member
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So there were no problems getting the okay through the owner for the change.
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6th Nov 2017, 10:13 AM #17Diamond Member
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6th Nov 2017, 06:17 PM #18Philomath in training
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I was not thinking of doing the whole room, just a portion against the opposite side for just that reason.
The house is relatively old and I suspect it's joists over dirt.
This was the agent's suggestion (but who has now moved on). I have a number of issues to discuss with the new agent but this will be on the list. As others can attest, I usually run a ridiculously clean workshop, so provided I can protect the immediate floor (builder's ply for example), I don't think there should be a major issue.
A couple of people have mentioned masonite. I'd prefer to avoid that if possible as it is hard and smooth and I've slipped on it before.
Michael
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6th Nov 2017, 06:49 PM #19Philomath in training
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Some photos
Some photos -
First the rumpus room
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These are some of the 'workshop'
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Michael
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6th Nov 2017, 07:56 PM #20Most Valued Member
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About the middle of next May, you are *not* going to enjoy working in that 'workshop'.......
Think about heating & insulation. Think about it now, before you need it.
When I built this house I put one of my lathes and one of my mills in the back room of the house so I could work in comfort during the winter. As it turned out I very rarely did that for various reasons but the idea is still good. In fact the Chipmaster lathe is still there though I did move the mill.
PDW
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7th Nov 2017, 07:01 AM #21Home Hobbist
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Good to see your getting setup well.
I think the lino flooring is a good idea as well, it relatively cheap and you can then place the plywood on top.
You better have a good backup plan when the Agent wants to do a house inspection, pop a few flowers in the machines here and there and call them modern industrial art.
Keith_W.
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7th Nov 2017, 07:09 AM #22Philomath in training
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How about a false wall? Given the many things missing from the inspection report, they probably would not notice if half the room was missing.
Michael
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7th Nov 2017, 10:09 AM #23Most Valued Member
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If I were in that situation I think personally I'd be going for floating floor underlay myself. It's specifically designed just for that purpose, and I think with the lightweight machines you're considering the compliance wouldn't be an issue. I'd then look for the cheapest floating floor I could possibly find, even if you were using ones that were completely mismatched, and ask the agent if he minded you laying a floating floor down over the existing floor to be removed when you left and leave the existing floor as it was. Take the door off the hinges so you don't have to cut it to suit the floor height, and just run the floor up to, instead of under, the skirting, much like carpet is laid.
Having said that, I think you would need to be pretty carefully with this to be perfectly honest Michael. Many on the forum know you, and I can personally attest to how well you look after things and your cleanliness. BUT your agent doesn't know you, nor does the landlord. If I were in his/her situation, didn't know the person, and discovered the tenant had installed a "workshop" in one of the rooms of the house I was renting them I'd have a fit! I'd also want the agent's butt for allowing that to happen. I don't know if there are any specific laws about that in the Tenancy Act, but I would think there would be. I've heard all manner of horror stories about tenants rebuilding Harley motorcycles on the carpet of their lounge rooms etc etc etc to want to even entertain the idea for a second and I'd terminate the lease.
You may find the whole thing much more palatable for everyone concerned if you offered to line the workshop for the owner. You may even be able to strike a deal where they provide the cost of materials, as it would add considerable value to the house over what you photographed. Even if they didn't, it's remarkably cheap to put up some studs, insulation, and Gyprock, and if you could use the existing floor the cost probably wouldn't be dissimilar to any thicker ply you were considering. It probably wouldn't be as comfortable as working under the main roof, but that's the price we pay for living in somebody else's house, and instead of chancing upsetting anyone you're seen as an "ideal" tenant by everyone. When I've been renting in the past I've offered to do some improvements to the property that suited my needs, and it's always been very well received by the owner. Indeed I finished up not having my rent changed for years as I was considered the "perfect" tenant and I finished up in a place that was cheaper than an interest only loan as I saved for my own.
The other thing to consider is the metal chips stick to your shoes (and you couldn't work in any workshop in socks) and get tracked around. By distancing the workshop from the main living area they get a chance to come off the soles as you walk between the two. However when part of the same area they are just going to "migrate" regardless of how careful you are. Apart from being a PIA, they will damage any polished flooring.
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7th Nov 2017, 12:57 PM #25Diamond Member
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Hi MG,
I just re-read your first post, are you sure its a varnished wooden floor? In the photo you showed it looks more like modern bamboo/man made type flooring board. If it is, they scratch really easy and you can't just buff or polish it out. I agree with Pete, if someone I didn't know said they were going to put a workshop in the rumpus I'd at least bump up the bond to cover any damage.
I often wear thongs in my workshop, I regret it every time.
Ben.
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2nd Dec 2017, 06:48 PM #27Philomath in training
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Rather than running around after furniture, I finally did some 'making stuff' stuff. Starting from a low base though -
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The vice is a Dawn 4SP, bought locally for $100. The wooden stand was free and included...
I tried screwing some braces on with some brass screws (the only size in the length I wanted). Not only did I discover that they are possibly the one item in Bunnings that is brass rather than brass plated steel, but I also discovered that the recommended pilot holes need to be bigger when screwing into jarah. Screw untouched by Makita cordless on the right.
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Back to bolts next I guess.
Michael
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4th Jan 2018, 11:54 PM #28Most Valued Member
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How's the workshop coming along??? Did you end up getting your machines OK???
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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5th Jan 2018, 06:55 AM #29Philomath in training
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Machines are here and I have had them out of the boxes to move them (couriers did not follow instructions on where to leave them). I also have the benches for them ready; the biggest problem at the moment is the letting agency. I've put in a lease termination notice as the place is not to the standard promised and there is no great interest in getting it that way in a timely fashion.
Some of my favourites are the guttering that was removed about a month ago because it was rusted through in places is yet to been replaced*, the light fittings hanging from the ceiling by their supply wires are still that way after a couple of months and because the drains are open (not sure that is even allowed), occasionally I get slugs appearing in the shower. As for potentially dangerous things like slippery paths and light fittings that trip breakers when you touch them...
*Most people would measure up and order the bits they need and once they had arrived, remove and replace the same day. The person doing this has the novel approach of remove the old, then discover that the replacement items are not available and will take some weeks to get here.
Michael
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5th Jan 2018, 01:19 PM #30Most Valued Member
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Do you have another place lined up to move into? If you have, hopefully it'll have a decent shed/area to work in?
Do you think that putting in the termination notice that will get some action going, to make the place habitable?
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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