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10th Oct 2017, 02:03 PM #16Diamond Member
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10th Oct 2017, 03:26 PM #17Member
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That Pacific lathe is a brilliant find if it was me I would be all over that one they are a big step up from the CQ made in Taiwan too and the belt drive clutch option was always good
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11th Oct 2017, 02:11 PM #18Diamond Member
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11th Oct 2017, 04:37 PM #19Member
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Good Luck they are a very nice machine the fit and finish is about 200 percent better than a CQ
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11th Oct 2017, 05:05 PM #20Most Valued Member
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Hi there,
I have one of these lathes, although not the exact same name, it is still a Chinese 12x36 generic lathe. I can't fault it. It has done everything I have asked of it. The only source of annoyance to me is the clunkiness of the spindle speed change levers. They are so clunky that it's sometmes difficult to feel the spring detent to ensure it's in the correct position. I have learnt to live with it and it's not a big issue.
I too fited a QC tool post. I had to bore out the hole to match the existing bolt that holds it down.
The castings seem pretty well made. I have since replaced the spindle bearings with FAG P5 bearings after the crud in the headstock chewed them out before I realised. While they were not cheap, after some searching I found one in the US and one in the UK for reasonable cost. The surface finish was greatly improved. Check the quality of the oil in the HS and apron.
Oh, also the feed rate gearbox is a total loss type (think called a Norton) this means that when you oil it through the various oil ports, it basically drips through to the chip tray. I made a small catch box that sits under that gearbox to catch the oil rather than it draining and soaking into the swarf.
When moving my lathe, I leave the TS and cabinets in place. Because the cabinets hang lower than the lathe, they actually keep the lathe upright. I use the TS as a fine tune counter balance. I slide it until I obtain a nice balance. Same can be done with the apron. Make sure both TS and apron are locked in place once balanced or things can get real funky real quick! Also, make sure the sling and hook (if used) do not touch the spindle as you do not want any lifting stress tranfered to the spindle. Make sure the sling goes on the inside of the leadscrew otherwise you will bend it.
WRT moving over grass, remove the cabinets and as stated above, the bed will slide nicely with just human power over sheet metal, timber is corragated iron. The latter sounding like a great idea.
Good luck!
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11th Oct 2017, 08:24 PM #21Diamond Member
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Evening,
I went out and had a look at the Pacific lathe this evening. It's a really nice lathe that's been well looked after. The current owner's father bought it direct in 84 and made some improvements such as oil points in every conceivable place et.c. et.c. It's got all the required accessories such as faceplate, fixed and travelling steadies.
The VFD is pretty good. Very handy piece of kit, better than the one on my Hercus Mill.
The quality of the lathe itself is good, everything slides and feels good. The bed is in great shape. It's much like the Hercus ATM but better and more modern.
The owner showed me some of the things he's made with his lathe and mill. A Quorn grinder, a HH dial engraver, a retractable threading tool et.c really made to a high standard.
I'm hopefully going to look at the CQ tomorrow. It'll been a hard decision.
Ben
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12th Oct 2017, 02:33 PM #22Most Valued Member
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I understand at present you have not seen the CQ lathe.
The other lathe you mentioned has all of its original extras I believe.
After checking the CQ compare the extras and if they are not equall you would need to decide.
Make sure you also consider the differences between the two.
The CQ has a camlock spindle, drive belts to the spindle from motor and not from a counter shaft, saddle spindle control,maybe a larger spindle bore.
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12th Oct 2017, 04:28 PM #23
The CQ is also Geared Head, I have a Pacific Geared Head and would not go back to swapping belts it is also D1-4 Camlock, although the Pacific you looked at has a VFD.
Pacific Lathe.jpgShane
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13th Oct 2017, 10:28 AM #24Diamond Member
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Hi,
I didn't get to view the CQ, the owner is a hard bloke to nail down. I would like to view it before bidding on it or buying it, but I guess if you bid and win it on ebay and it's not what you expected or a fault is found you don't pay for it.
I like the Pacific, there's a good write up on lathe uk :
Taiwanese Lathes by Brazier's Lantaine, Enco, Wey II Corp, Warco, Peerless, Kin Shin, carolina with Models: 1122, 1124, 1224, 1236, 1340 & 1327 Lathes
I'm pretty sure the spindle bore is 38 mm. I forgot to mention the owner put on bigger dials etc. The only thing I don't like about it so much is it's belt driven but as stated above it has a VFD though the current owner said he still uses it in the traditional way and uses the VFD to fine tune his speeds.
I think in the end it will come down to money.
Ben.
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13th Oct 2017, 11:15 AM #25Pink 10EE owner
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13th Oct 2017, 04:31 PM #26Golden Member
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Belt drive. Ditto with 3 Hardinges and a 1800kg Tos, mind you the Tos is 4 Vbelts to gear box then a 100mm flat belt drive to the spindle.
Ken
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15th Oct 2017, 08:40 AM #27Diamond Member
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Well I dithered and I missed out on both lathes. I think in hindsight I should of picked up the Pacific when it had a BIN.
No worries, there's always another day and another lathe or milling machine or shaper or grinder......
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15th Oct 2017, 09:22 AM #28
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15th Oct 2017, 03:07 PM #29
Thats expenzive for an older model, I only paid $3000 new for mine with cabinets, all assesories and a live centre.
Newcastle gasweld will barter a bit if you go and have a chat with the manager, I ended up selling another 3 lathes for them with recommending them to 1 member here and another forum.
I know there prices have risen, but when I bought mine the lathe on it's own was $3000, the cabinets around $400 and the live centre $100, so $500 off.Using Tapatalk
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28th Oct 2017, 12:49 PM #30
Looks like another CQ lathe up Newcastle way.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nora...ard/1163897619Shane
Got the square peg in the round hole, now can't get it out !!
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