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    Default How would you make these table legs

    Hi.
    Is there an easy way to make these table legs.

    I think this is my first post on the metalworking forum which probably indicates my skill level.

    I guess its the taper which is the main issue - would have to be just right.

    Also, what type of metal would they be ? brass ?

    cheers
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    Solid brass or steel would be too heavy
    If you used solid Al the taper could be cut with a taper jig on WW table saw and an negative raked tooth blade

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    If the legs are hollow, they might be made from brass angle.
    If the angles were machined to a taper, two halves could then be soldered together, forming the shape you want.
    A mill and fly cutter could do the machining, with brass angle set up high at one end.
    Alternatively they could be steel, copper or brass plated after brazing together
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    I think I found the website that picture came from

    Ginger Brown France,galuchat,shagreen furniture

    All I could see was a close up of another style with similar legs, but it looks to me like its painted wood, not brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sossity View Post
    I think I found the website that picture came from

    Ginger Brown France,galuchat,shagreen furniture

    All I could see was a close up of another style with similar legs, but it looks to me like its painted wood, not brass.
    It is Ginger Brown, but what about that photo makes you think it's timber?

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    As it comes from a commercial supplier, I would say that they were either drawn or rolled . Forced/drawn into a tapered tube with a tapered mandrel, or rolled around a tapered mandrel then ERW welded, then brass plated.
    Contact a metal spinner to see if they could do something similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arron View Post
    It is Ginger Brown, but what about that photo makes you think it's timber?

    Don't pay any attention to me, I'm usually wrong! If you look at the ABOUT tab on the web site you can see a better resolution version of the legs. i thought it had very soft edges everywhere, and the finish looks like a sprayed "shabby chic" finish (well done mind you). Painted wood is cheaper which was my guess. However, shagreen is expensive anyway I imagine, plus the web site says they use cast brass, so that would be my second guess.

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    It is made from Cast Bronze and Shagreen (Stingray skin), I would hate to see the asking prices

    Quote from the site and a link to the exact table which they call a console

    "Designer and manufacturer of exclusives furniture and decorative accessories, our collection is handcrafted with the rarest and finest materials such as shagreen, sea shell, parchment,
    cast bronze and more..."

    Ginger Brown France,galuchat,shagreen furniture


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    You have to get a quote for the furniture, but here's one with an indicative price of US$12k. Maybe the legs are made of gold. Can't see why shagreen is so expensive. You can get a fish supper for $5, and I usually throw away the skin.
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    A quick way would be to start with some RHS and plasma or waterjet cut the angles , tig weld and polish and plate to requirements ,

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    If it was me, I'd start with square and draw out the round taper in the smithy. Although I think I'd want to be using a power hammer not doing it by hand.

    Couldn't you turn a taper on square stock? I think you would want weight in the legs to offset the cabinet.
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    Thanks for the response guys.
    As I understand it the method proposed by Nadroj and Mike4 are fairly similar, except that one starts with angle and the other Rhs. Basically, both involve doing each leg by cutting two right angled tapered lengths then welding down the seams. There being two seams, each going the full length of the leg - is that right ?


    Given you had some brass angle, would it be a big deal to taper the angle using a grinder and a file?

    Could I use my cbn wheel to do the grinding ? I think it would chew the brass away all to quickly, but they are expensive things and I don't want to ruin it.

    Then joining the two pieces together, what would be the most accessible way of doing it. Is it practical to solder something like this? MAP gas maybe ?

    Googling tells me I can mig weld brass. Is that really practical in thi instance?


    Cheers
    Arron

    Oh, btw, anyone know where to buy some shagreen.

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    There being two seams, each going the full length of the leg - is that right ?

    - Yes.

    Given you had some brass angle, would it be a big deal to taper the angle using a grinder and a file?

    - I don't think it would be worth trying without a guided machine tool. With a milling machine it would be easy. You'd need to arrange for the brass angle to be supported with the open V upwards.
    It might be enough to start with a longer length than needed, drill through each end for bolts to secure to slots in the table, then cut off the ends when finished. Hardwood packing pieces of varying thickness along the length would provide resistance to bending when machined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nadroj View Post
    There being two seams, each going the full length of the leg - is that right ?

    - Yes.

    Given you had some brass angle, would it be a big deal to taper the angle using a grinder and a file?

    - I don't think it would be worth trying without a guided machine tool. With a milling machine it would be easy. You'd need to arrange for the brass angle to be supported with the open V upwards.
    It might be enough to start with a longer length than needed, drill through each end for bolts to secure to slots in the table, then cut off the ends when finished. Hardwood packing pieces of varying thickness along the length would provide resistance to bending when machined.
    Ok thanks
    I did an answer to this but I think it got lost so here goes again.

    I don't have access to a milling machine so need to think of other options.

    I have a big boy sander, one of these L112 | L-80 Belt Sander | For Sale Sydney Brisbane Melbourne Perth | Buy Workshop Equipment & Machinery online at machineryhouse.com.au
    Mine is the oscillating version.
    Given a zirconia belt it should eat the brass in a few minutes.
    I'm thinking I would make a jig from mdf, brass angle to be held in place with a few screws (fill the holes later). Have a little screw mechanism to advance the brass towards the belt at either end.

    I do this already for timber. I don't see why it wouldn't work with brass, but never tried a long length. Am I missing something.

    Cheers
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