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    Default Anvil-vise anyone seen one?

    Hi,
    Just looking around and found the pics below. I have been interested in blacksmithing for as long as i can remember (at least since i was 10) and I've never seen or heard of anything like this before. Have any of you?





    Just another thing i'd like to own.......

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    They are cute but the practical side escapes me.
    That one in your picture wouldn't last long if you use a 2 k hammer with some muscle behind it
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    Old is not always best, particularly with anvils.

    This is a nice and new anvil



    And a nice and new vice



    See more tools here
    https://www.blacksmithsdepot.com/pag...ces/Site_Pages
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    Here is a monster I came across. Sorry about the picture quality, I couldn't get far enough away to get the whole thing into focus.

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    Oh heck, I'd better 'fess up...... given the date and all....

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    Wow i never new they made matches that big..... I guess it would be like trying to strike a 4x2....

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    They also come with even more accessory functions - a friend has a small/medium sized one that includes a hand cranked grinder in a gap in the bed and it has holes for something else, but we have no idea what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsrlee View Post
    They also come with even more accessory functions - a friend has a small/medium sized one that includes a hand cranked grinder in a gap in the bed and it has holes for something else, but we have no idea what.
    This it?

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    As useful as tits on a bull.

    Old tools are nice for collectors and may even be valuable, who knows. As far as the original poster stating his interest in blacksmithing, this stuff is good for a few things I can think of but clearly not for anything resembling blacksmithing.

    Yes you can still work with a home made coal forge cranked by hand, you can use a beaten up old anvil with rounded edges, and a concave work surface and a vice found buried under one foot of dirt in your uncles shed, but only a masochist would want to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    As useful as tits on a bull.

    Old tools are nice for collectors and may even be valuable, who knows. As far as the original poster stating his interest in blacksmithing, this stuff is good for a few things I can think of but clearly not for anything resembling blacksmithing.

    Yes you can still work with a home made coal forge cranked by hand, you can use a beaten up old anvil with rounded edges, and a concave work surface and a vice found buried under one foot of dirt in your uncles shed, but only a masochist would want to do that.
    hmmmmm, Hi Marc,
    I am going to have to very politely disagree. Especially in my line of work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    hmmmmm, Hi Marc,
    I am going to have to very politely disagree. Especially in my line of work

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    Hi Phil...what do you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    hmmmmm, Hi Marc,
    I am going to have to very politely disagree. Especially in my line of work

    Phil
    Thanks Phil, that was a lot more diplomatic than i was going to be.

    If old anvils are no good, then you obviously unaware that they can literally last forever. They can be refaced with weld these days, but even in the old days anvils were trued by heating and forging before re-hardening. Any blacksmith worth his salt knows to look after his anvil as it is the ONLY tool he cannot make (ok, i have never made a file, but pretty well everything else) I still use bellows, i mean really, who wants to hear the wine of a blower over the roar of the fire? And god forbid if you don't turn the blower off when you gotta break for 5 minuets then your fire burns itself hollow. I suppose next you'll argue that all forges arn't well enough lit, and buying tools is better than making them.

    Yes you have struck a nerve in me, but i believe some if not most old skills need to be kept alive. As for the anvil vice i never stated my approval or disapproval, i had just never seen one before, and wondered if anyone had. Actually i think if you were a roaming farrier you would find great use in an anvil-vice. Some even have a forge on the side.

    If you want to make comments about my Anvils, yes my little one is round edged and sway backed. It was also my great Grandfathers. As for my large one, make your own mind up. http://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/sh...ml#post1463132

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Old is not always best, particularly with anvils.

    This is a nice and new anvil



    And a nice and new vice



    See more tools here
    https://www.blacksmithsdepot.com/pag...ces/Site_Pages
    That anvil and leg vice are very nice but at $2350 plus shipping from the states (probably about that again) it's not an option for us in Aus. It's very hard to find quality gear in Australia. I was talking to a blacksmith recently and he mentioned that at his art smithing guild meeting they counted up how many anvils they owned between the 7 or 8 members there. 75 No wonder we can't find anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Hi Phil...what do you do?
    Hi Marc,
    If you have a couple of hours to spare, Have a look at this thread
    http://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/whisperings-143904/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Thanks Phil, that was a lot more diplomatic than i was going to be.
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    Hi Ewan,
    I have to admit it took me nearly an hour to calm down

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    Hi Ewan,
    I found these two beauties in a reprint of an 1894 Millers Falls catalogue. A mobile mechanic of the day ( your roaming farrier ) would have found the anvil, vise and drill invaluable. And only $18.00! I wonder how many weeks pay that would have been in 1894.
    I'm no blacksmith but I'd love to get my hands on one ( or both ) of these.
    Regards,
    Geoff.

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