Thread: todays tools gloat

Originally Posted by Jon_77

Thanks Dave, Ueee.

Ueee - Believe it or not the vice on this one doesn't swivel, it's fixed.

Dave J - I've been meaning to ask you - when are you going to post some photo's of your toolpost holders you've been making, you know the 40 something or other of the things? I have the same style (BR/BP from Hairy Forbes).

Eskimo - Nice score, always liked the Brobo/Waldown stuff, shame it's missing the important bits.

I'd imagine the cost of the replacement bits will far out weight the cost of even being able to buy a complete new machine if you could, still it's worth a shot

Cheers
Jon

Hi Jon
Expensive aren't they, LOL Ray also has one the same as mine from H&F. Even though they are expensive, the quality seems to be top notch.
I only have the QA 150, I should have checked over the A model because it come with more holders, and the specs in the catalogs and on line are all over the shop, but I think it would have fitted mine.

I will post about them soon, just waiting on the grub screws from the UK and still working out what finish is going on them. I bought 1500 grub screws for $110 posted, compared to $30-$110 a box of 100 here.
I was going to buy a cold blackening kit as I don't want to heat them because they will warp, but have been thinking of taking them the the platers and have them zinc coated, but am unsure of the price and if they will do the lot for the minimum charge of around $60.

Nice score on the saw again, do you have a metal bandsaw?

Dave

Originally Posted by Dave J

Hi Jon
Expensive aren't they, LOL Ray also has one the same as mine from H&F. Even though they are expensive, the quality seems to be top notch.
I only have the QA 150, I should have checked over the A model because it come with more holders, and the specs in the catalogs and on line are all over the shop, but I think it would have fitted mine.

I will post about them soon, just waiting on the grub screws from the UK and still working out what finish is going on them. I bought 1500 grub screws for $110 posted, compared to $30-$110 a box of 100 here.
I was going to buy a cold blackening kit as I don't want to heat them because they will warp, but have been thinking of taking them the the platers and have them zinc coated, but am unsure of the price and if they will do the lot for the minimum charge of around $60.

Nice score on the saw again, do you have a metal bandsaw?

Dave

They are $100 a holder :O. I believe they're made in Taiwan, they do seem to be decent quality. I was considering making a few myself when i have time to commit to that project - You ended up just using mild steel didn't you?

They wouldn't be much good warped that's for sure - plating may be a better option then providing costs aren't too high.

Ouch, typical of this country, taken for a ride, then they wonder why people import stuff themselves. That's a decent price for 1500 of them.

Yeah I do, it's just a H&F BS-5S. Works reasonably well. Having had access to a cold saw for a while, I just find they are just so much quicker for fit up work, less prep work prior to welding, accuracy is debatable as a properly setup Horizontal bandsaw will do accurate cuts.

Cheers
Jon

Hi,
Yeah just mild steel, I cant see me wearing them out as I will have a good range of them, so it's not like just one is going to get a flogging. For the regular tools I will use the 6 factory ones I have though.
I did leave the lip on the back where it gets pulled in a little thicker for more support since they are softer.

With the grub screws, at the Aussie prices I was starting to think was it worth making them as the grub screws where going to cost that much.
I bought a mixed lot of 1000 M3 - M6 just because he was combining a good postage rate and they are always useful, and the 500 for the tool posts with lots left over, some long and some shorter for the tall tools, but they come in 100 box so I had to buy that many, but will have plenty of M8 left over.

The 40mm long ones for the adjuster where $110 plus a box here, and it was only $23 off him and all are 14.9 grade. I don't need that grade but that seems to be what he sells.

This is the deal I got from this guy on ebay
stainless bolts items - Get great deals on nuts, washers items on eBay Stores!

All M8 x 1.25mm grub screws (black, cup point)
100 x 40mm long
100 x 10mm long
200 x 16mm long
100 x 25mm long
+
M3 M4 M5 M6 BLACK STRONG ALLEN GRUB SCREWS X 1000 pcs
+
Postage to Australia

The total was about $112 with the bank doing currency conversion though master card (which is the first time I tried the bank doing it with the paypal conversion rates going up)

Comparing to this online shop prices below, I got a steal.
https://www.bolt.com.au/allen-key-pr...1994_2015.html


Dave

Hi Dave,
I have used these guys for stainless steel bolts before, they also sell grubs a decent prices https://www.stainlessstore.com.au/in...sort=1a&page=2 Not sure on the grade though think they are 304 stainless

Originally Posted by Ueee

Hi Dave,
I have used these guys for stainless steel bolts before, they also sell grubs a decent prices https://www.stainlessstore.com.au/in...sort=1a&page=2 Not sure on the grade though think they are 304 stainless

I didn't really care about the grade as long as it was 4.8 or more, but I think the SS might be a bit soft for this job.
Thanks for the link though, they have good prices for SS stuff there.

Dave

Just a thought, when your making your tool holders and if your using this guy above, order the screws before starting as I have been waiting 2 weeks for them so far. He did mention DHL and I thought thats how they would come, but he only quoted 14 pounds postage when the ebay calculator said $29 pounds, so he may have sent the by normal mail instead.

Dave

Originally Posted by Dave J

Hi,
Yeah just mild steel, I cant see me wearing them out as I will have a good range of them, so it's not like just one is going to get a flogging. For the regular tools I will use the 6 factory ones I have though.
I did leave the lip on the back where it gets pulled in a little thicker for more support since they are softer.

With the grub screws, at the Aussie prices I was starting to think was it worth making them as the grub screws where going to cost that much.
I bought a mixed lot of 1000 M3 - M6 just because he was combining a good postage rate and they are always useful, and the 500 for the tool posts with lots left over, some long and some shorter for the tall tools, but they come in 100 box so I had to buy that many, but will have plenty of M8 left over.

The 40mm long ones for the adjuster where $110 plus a box here, and it was only $23 off him and all are 14.9 grade. I don't need that grade but that seems to be what he sells.

This is the deal I got from this guy on ebay
stainless bolts items - Get great deals on nuts, washers items on eBay Stores!

All M8 x 1.25mm grub screws (black, cup point)
100 x 40mm long
100 x 10mm long
200 x 16mm long
100 x 25mm long
+
M3 M4 M5 M6 BLACK STRONG ALLEN GRUB SCREWS X 1000 pcs
+
Postage to Australia

The total was about $112 with the bank doing currency conversion though master card (which is the first time I tried the bank doing it with the paypal conversion rates going up)

Comparing to this online shop prices below, I got a steal.
https://www.bolt.com.au/allen-key-pr...1994_2015.html


Dave

You did very well out of it.

I've delt with Bolt.com.au, and whilst their prices can be expensive they are good to deal with. They're handy when you just need a handful of a certain size and need them fairly quickly. But when buying the quantities you've just bought you'd go broke buying through them.

Yeah stuff from the U.K Via surface mail can take some time, it's no worse than USPS - which is hit and miss at the best of times.

With any luck you'll get them soon so you can complete the things.

Cheers
Jon

I was only buying 350 to start off with and would have bought them locally until I added up the prices.
He said he would do a good deal on postage if I wanted more, and said he has sold to many Aussies. So thats the only reason I bought the 1000 lot of mixed sizes and the others only come in 100 boxes, so I just got them as they wont go astray around here.

This is another one I have seen but not as yet bought off. Prices don't seem to be too bad.
Bolts Nuts Screws Online |bolts-screws-decking screws-rivets-stainless steel-socket head cap screws- bolt high tensile stainless steel bolts mild steel and brass screws fasteners-socket head cap screws-drill bits-



Dave

Ps
That place is $9.50 postage or free over $99

Its going to be toasty warm in my shed tonight!
A mate just dropped this off.

Stuart

Toasty warm yes, but remember that one of the products of combustion is water vapour and you will have lots of nice cold cast iron sitting around waiting to condense it. Make sure it's either painted, oiled or covered.

Michael

Yeah... I wish there was something I could do about that but the electirc heater just doesnt cut it. Its also another piece collected for casting.

I agree with Michael, and just in the past few weeks I had to get in a clean and oil both my mill and lathe up because I have had the electric heater going.
I have an out door one that stands 5-6 feet tall, my daughter bought it for me last birthday for the shed, but you do have to watch condensation with any sort of heat around cast iron.
I just have mine on my back when working on the mill or lathe, it seems to keep me warm enough on the coldest nights, but my hands still freeze.

Dave

I feel sorry for you blokes that need to work in your sheds once it gets dark.

It doesn't have to be dark to be cold down here.

Originally Posted by Dave J

I agree with Michael, and just in the past few weeks I had to get in a clean and oil both my mill and lathe up because I have had the electric heater going.
I have an out door one that stands 5-6 feet tall, my daughter bought it for me last birthday for the shed, but you do have to watch condensation with any sort of heat around cast iron.
I just have mine on my back when working on the mill or lathe, it seems to keep me warm enough on the coldest nights, but my hands still freeze.

Dave

It's not only the heat, it's the type of heat. LPG creates lots of water vapour, electric heat creates none. You're simultaneously raising the air temperature *and* adding water thereby compounding the condensation problem on cold(er) surfaces. Big problem in steel boats which is why I'm fitting a flued diesel heater to mine (and a hell of a lot of insulation to keep the moist air from the steel anyway).

Many years ago when I lived near the ocean in Sydney I always had condensation problems in winter. Funnily enough I'm even closer to the water in Ta and have none at all; bright steel welds ground back don't even get surface rust after 3 months in the shed. I don't have any heating though. This is why I have a lathe and milling machine in the back room of the house to play with on cold/wet days (nights).

I did find that a drop cloth like a canvas painter's cloth over the machines kept the worst of the moisture away.

PDW