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  1. #91
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    Another good reason for the X2 over something bigger is weight.
    Living in a rented place, the need to move one day is always in the back of your mind.
    Moving a 60Kg mill is a lot easier than trying to shift one that weighs a few hundred Kgs.

    [Looks like a move is on. Landlord came around today to collect the rent and told me the rent is going up 10%. Looks like the move to Tassie is back on ]

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    Hi DaveJ.
    Here are a couple of photos of the 63mm Vises. I have a friend who has an X2 mill so we made a swivel base for one of them out of local available materials. We designed it to be as low a profile as possible as with all mills height above the table top is valuable.
    Regards Bob

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    Wow, that is a nice piece of work. I particularly like the way you clamp the vice to the swivel base.

    Well done, everyone will want drawings now, "that will teach you".

    Ken

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    Hi Bob,
    Your friend would have to be happy with that, you do some nice machining.
    I like the way you used the socket head screws to keep the vise square on the base, good thinking.

    I see we have the same big vise, but you have made a handle for yours (nice work again ), I have yet to make one so I use a socket T bar at the moment, did you use a socket for the centre or make the hex from scratch? I like the idea of the plugs to keep the crap out of the threads as well.
    Also, whats the screw in bits on the side at the back of you big vise?


    Dave

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    Hi neksmerj
    Thanks Ken for your comments, unfortunately I do not have any plans.
    We only draw plans on the back of old envelopes in pencil as we usually have a few different designs to think about. This allows you to find an area that can be improved and fix the drawing real fast.This is also part of the fun in making tooling. I was originally intending to machine a 5mm deep trench for the vise to locate in, but this would have required making another set of hold down lugs of a shorter length or an additional cross trench.The four 5mm Allen bolts have had their heads machined down to form a snug fit against the vise. The current hold down lugs can be used to lock the vise down to your table top as well if you do not need the rotating facility so they are duel purpose.
    Regards Bob

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    Hi Dave,
    Yes my freind is very happy with the vise base, he has a small 3" chuck sized lathe that we have done a lot of rebuilding on so he was able to do some of the machining on his lathe as well. The mill handle is very handy, sure saves a lot of winding. I made it with a deep socket, but as you know they are a very loose fit so I turned up a snug fitting sleeve that fits before the socket to eliminate nearly all of the slack. As you do need to remove the handle on some occasions I loctited a 10mm diameter rare earth magnet into the base of the socket this holds it in place and makes for a no tools removal. I made the Aluminium balls on a ball turner that I made for my lathe a few years ago. The knurled screws on the vise keep all of the swarf out of the holes and also hold my quick release splash guards in place when I need them. The item on the back of the vise is another rare earth magnet that I fitted into an aluminium sleeve, I made up a bunch of them and use them on the lathe and mill for keeping splash guards in place. They are also very good at holding small end mills up to 12mm diameter in place in the mills collet chuck so that you have both hands free to undo the collet, saves the end mills from dropping out of the chuck. A few photos of the mill handle will help clarify the above.
    Regards
    Bob

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    Thanks for that, I now understand it all.
    You sound like me with plans,lol. when I am down the shed and need to visually see how something is going to turn out, I scribble on some scrap paper, chalk on the floor or on the white board. Then I draw up plans after woods if I have to put up on the forum.
    When I built my crane for the truck, people asked me did I have plans. Some are amazed when I say they where drawn in chalk on the floor and went when I swept up.lol

    That handle came out really nice, you should be proud of that. your ball turner blending work is beautiful as well as your machining. How did you go about fastening the socket in their? is it held by the handles or the 3 socket screws?

    I am just about to order some magnets, any cheap leads? As well as other things, I want them for the soft vise jaws on my bench vise as they are a pain to keep on.

    Dave

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    Nice work

    Dave I've bought some magnets off this guy about a year ago. Not sure how cheap he is now
    eBay Australia Shop - Frenergy Magnets: Block and Cube, Disc, Magnetic Sheets and Strips

    Stuart

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    Thanks Stuart,
    I was just looking at his shop last night and thought his prices where OK.
    How powerful are they? I was think of about 8-10mm round by 2mm thick.

    Dave

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    Hi Dave,
    The magnets I have I brought from Aussie Magnets on ebay they are 10mm dia by 10 mm long and can pick up 2 kg .They were quite cheap when I brought them 80 cents each but you had to buy a few. Have a look at his site aussiemagnets.com.au and see if he has a special on.
    The socket I used in my handle was a long one double depth, I machined it down in diameter to make it nice and round and then drilled the square drive out of it, I made a steel sleve up out of a piece of heavy wall steel tubing I had and loctited a magnet into it then loctited the magnet sleeve into the socket, I then bored a larger piece of steel around 40mm dia to suit the outside diameter of the socket/magnet tube assembly and loctited them together. The three handles on the handle also engage into both tube assemblies so there is no chance of movement. The three small allen screws only hold the guide tube in place which is located by a spigot into the socket tube. Hope all this makes sense.
    Regards Bob

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    Dave, 8 or 10 mm should be fine for most things. I got 100 x 6mm ones from frenergy a while back. I think they're 1 mm thick. Don't remember the cost, but cheap as. The strength is a bit marginal for some things. 2 of them have stopped one of my 6" soft jaws from falling of. 3 would be better. I keep a couple floating on my tailstock for spanners. A bigger size there would be good. I found another use for them too: Keeping track of disassembled small parts, eg sticking a key to its shaft. Or a broken tooth to its gear.

  12. #102
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    No trouble understanding it from this end, thanks for that.
    I hate spitting a set, but the local markets has the deep wall sockets for $6 each but will sell you a set of 10 (I think it is) for $18, work that one out.lol

    Dave

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    Hi Dave,
    I picked mine up from what we call "Mitre 11" That is the local tip shop that recycles, cost all of $1-00. Do you have one of these down your way?
    Bob

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    Hi Bob,
    We have one down here but we call it David Jones because it's so expensive.lol
    Honestly the prices are ridiculous, I usually shop at the local markets as their are plenty around, for all types of new and used gear.

    Dave

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    Dave mine are 6mmx2mm and damn strong little suckers they are to.
    I'll slip some in the post if you want to try a few out. There is a problem with magnetic soft jaws though, swarf. On the whole I think they are worth the trouble but sometimes you'll be swearing at them.
    Stuart

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