Thread: Your latest project

You need to consider the damage to ones person from all that shaking. Four cans means at least four minutes of shaking. Just think that shaking the cans first this way means you are more able to give the cans a shake during the spraying process as the instruction state.

Dean

i would of thought the centrifical force would just send all the paint to one end of the can and not mix it at all .however strapped to the top of a shaper or a power hacksaw would do a good job .( just my opinion )

johno

Mmmmmm.....shaper can shaker......

When i first looked at the pics i was in my phone and the first thing i though was "he has strapped a bomb to his lathe". My opinion may be that those machines arn't the best, but i wouldn't be blowing one up! Then of course i read the text......
Neat trick. I'd still go the shaper......

mmmmm....shaper can shaker......

Phil

Not really a gloat.... In fact is isn't one at all...

Recently bought a turret mill head to put on my universal mill..... It was a long way away in Adelaide, simply because turret milling heads on their own are very rare, especially what I bought a 5hp ISO40 one with the big 105mm diameter quill...

I knew it was used..... Seller said it was good... I asked does the quill downfeed work... Oh yes was the reply, everything works...

We have all heard of flight rust happening in transit.... Well apparently another phenomenon with machinery is parts wearing out in transit.... Amazing but it must happen as the bronze worm wheel that powers the quill down feed gears is plain worn out to the point it no longer meshes with the worm... And I was told specifically the quill down feed was working...

It is no big deal to me as the head was cheap enough and it is not like I am going to be able to buy another one.... Plus I would mostly use the Z power feed on the mill anyway... And the rest of the head is in OK condition..

So just be aware of this new phenomenon of machine tools wearing out in transit.... After all the seller would not be dishonest..

Originally Posted by .RC.

Not really a gloat.... In fact is isn't one at all...

Recently bought a turret mill head to put on my universal mill..... It was a long way away in Adelaide, simply because turret milling heads on their own are very rare, especially what I bought a 5hp ISO40 one with the big 105mm diameter quill...

I knew it was used..... Seller said it was good... I asked does the quill downfeed work... Oh yes was the reply, everything works...

We have all heard of flight rust happening in transit.... Well apparently another phenomenon with machinery is parts wearing out in transit.... Amazing but it must happen as the bronze worm wheel that powers the quill down feed gears is plain worn out to the point it no longer meshes with the worm... And I was told specifically the quill down feed was working...

It is no big deal to me as the head was cheap enough and it is not like I am going to be able to buy another one.... Plus I would mostly use the Z power feed on the mill anyway... And the rest of the head is in OK condition..

So just be aware of this new phenomenon of machine tools wearing out in transit.... After all the seller would not be dishonest..

I guess it all depends on what your definition of 'works' is...

Had the same issue with the Vicky mill I bought from Melbourne some years back. Vendor conveniently neglected to mention that it was missing the telescopic drive shaft from the column mounted g/box to the knee.

No working power feeds at all. I was not happy.

I did notice on your PM postings that you're attempting to fit the entire dovetail ram to your horizontal mill. Must say it never occurred to me to think of that, I always assumed the size/angle of the dovetails would never match. My plan was to make up an adaptor like this one and mount my spare B/port J head. A long way down the project list, alas.

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PDW

It was 80% sure it would fit as a UK user found out they fitted when he bought a NOS ram and head..

The problem with the mill with the factory vertical head is the complete lack of Z clearance...

Originally Posted by .RC.

It was 80% sure it would fit as a UK user found out they fitted when he bought a NOS ram and head..

The problem with the mill with the factory vertical head is the complete lack of Z clearance...

Yeah. Standard problem. Got 2 vertical heads for my Vicky mill, a 3MT double-swivel all angle one and a 40 ISO single plane swivelling one. Never got around to fitting either of them for that exact reason. But then I do have the B/port so there's less incentive (ignoring rigidity). When I only had my small horizontal mill I lived with the loss of Z travel for the convenience of the vertical head.

The good news for you is, Michael G is now right up to speed on hobbing worm wheels.....

PDW

Originally Posted by PDW

The good news for you is, Michael G is now right up to speed on hobbing worm wheels.....

PDW

I've seen Michael's gearing creations and nominate him as the resident "Gear Guy". I'd definitely like to see the hobbing efforts Michael

Here is one reason why I like turret mills so much...

This got dropped off with instructions to bore out the inside to make it fit a different shaft... Tolerances on this sort of job are very generous..

Originally Posted by .RC.

Not really a gloat.... In fact is isn't one at all...

Recently bought a turret mill head to put on my universal mill..... It was a long way away in Adelaide, simply because turret milling heads on their own are very rare, especially what I bought a 5hp ISO40 one with the big 105mm diameter quill...

I knew it was used..... Seller said it was good... I asked does the quill downfeed work... Oh yes was the reply, everything works...

We have all heard of flight rust happening in transit.... Well apparently another phenomenon with machinery is parts wearing out in transit.... Amazing but it must happen as the bronze worm wheel that powers the quill down feed gears is plain worn out to the point it no longer meshes with the worm... And I was told specifically the quill down feed was working...

It is no big deal to me as the head was cheap enough and it is not like I am going to be able to buy another one.... Plus I would mostly use the Z power feed on the mill anyway... And the rest of the head is in OK condition..

So just be aware of this new phenomenon of machine tools wearing out in transit.... After all the seller would not be dishonest..

Doesn't just happen in the machine tool market.Many long years ago had to do an engine swap to Mitsubishi Sigma.I advised my impoverished customer that the best value would to fit an ''imported low mileage '' engine from Japan that proliferated the market at that time.Yeah Yeah the engine been hot test run. Up she came by courier 70 dollars Melb to Bendigo.
on arrival my hackles rose after unwrapping sending the courier away previously.The finger in the exhaust revealed not a black sooty finger as i expected for a test run engine but gold finger ''rust''.Next step I removed the valve cover.Instant hypertension,the rocker arms were rusted to the cam lobes.Red face all around me telling these poor nice people that they will have to wait as I had backed a ''dud horse''.On the phone to supplier ''no that can't be so we hot test run our engines,my reply was yes in Japan and my suggestion was they were economising on freight by towing them in behind the boat.Despite my savage phone calls attitude wa we got your dough and we dont give a f... .Pictures were taken and sent to them. Deaf ears.Mind over matter we dont mind and you dont matter.Numerous phone calls made to connected people in the trade and i found out that that engine was in a container that had got its feet wet in the salty brine,where and how who knows.More phone calls even to the suggestion that I return the engine to them in pieces and welded to their roller door with my tow along welder.
The culmination was a case to the Magistrates court as there was no provision in those days for a Small claims hearing trader vs trader.Outcome was all expenses made to be met by them,and all costs paid.I am not a litigious person and loathed to take the matter to that stage.
Final outcome was that importer went into liquidation as the claims for others rolled in.Some missed out and did their dough cold.Just a bit of trivia for you all Cheers John.

Originally Posted by .RC.

Here is one reason why I like turret mills so much...

This got dropped off with instructions to bore out the inside to make it fit a different shaft... Tolerances on this sort of job are very generous..

I'm a little confused by that picture..... is that the new head ( with in-flight wear) referred to in the other post?

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by .RC.

Here is one reason why I like turret mills so much...

This got dropped off with instructions to bore out the inside to make it fit a different shaft... Tolerances on this sort of job are very generous..

Yeah - like plus or minus 3mm. You could have done it with an angle grinder if you could have got one in there.

I have one of those PTO post hole diggers myself and 'rattle fit' is a flattering description of the clearance.

PDW

Originally Posted by .RC.

Here is one reason why I like turret mills so much...

This got dropped off with instructions to bore out the inside to make it fit a different shaft... Tolerances on this sort of job are very generous..

Yep thats the sort of job that turns up here A few mins thought an ''Get her done''Love these jobs .

Originally Posted by RayG

I'm a little confused by that picture..... is that the new head ( with in-flight wear) referred to in the other post?

Regards
Ray

No Ray, this is my turret mill I have owned for 8 years or so...

The head I bought is going on my Jafo universal mill, to make it more useful...