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30th Jan 2019, 07:52 PM #91Golden Member
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30th Jan 2019, 09:08 PM #92Most Valued Member
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30th Jan 2019, 09:57 PM #93Most Valued Member
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I don't think I'll bother
Oh I'd say it takes a fair amount of imagination. Please explain exactly what you think is going to happen.
Not on the planet we are talking about
25 x 10 GPOs on one circuit. 25 fan heaters would do nicely. You aren't going to complain that its less likely than your little story are you?
You might want to check your maths.
And yet that seems to be just what RC has.(although I would think 25 was unusual)
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30th Jan 2019, 10:02 PM #94Most Valued Member
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Its mounted in a way that makes the car unroadworthy(or at least they used to be, I know they did change the details on drives view not to long ago but I don't know the exact details so MAYBE they are no longer illegal), I'd call that a modification. But if you'd like I'll change it to an illegally window tint.
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30th Jan 2019, 10:30 PM #95Diamond Member
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While I pause and admire the maths exhibited here, talk of lots of incandescent lamps on a circuit does remind me of a shed project many years ago. I provided the electrical plan to the electrician show locations of GPOs and lights and switches and all that. The electrician used to be a council inspector, so I assumed not just well across his regs, but over and above most mortal sparkys.
The shed had 6 x 500W halogen floodlights spaced along its length. Being a lighting circuit he just went and put those on a 10A breaker. The lights worked. We pretty much never used them, except about once a year when we'd be working into the dark, loading a truck with a forklift while tractors and other vehicles were circulating in a fairly tight area - a moment of intense activity at the end of a long day where you really want that light to see what you're doing, and to keep people safe.
That's when we found out about the 10A breaker, because 6 x 500W lights draws 3,000W, or 12.5 Amps, and a 10A breaker will actually deliver that, without tripping, for quite a long time. We discovered, almost half an hour from memory. Then it'd trip and the workplace would plunge into darkness, and when it happened the first time, it was a moment where the workplace suddenly got extremely dangerous.
We then learned to expect it, and fast forward to a few years ago, replaced the lights with LED units.
That was the work of a qualified, licensed and highly experienced electrician, who happened to retire shortly after doing our job.
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31st Jan 2019, 09:27 AM #96Cheers.
Vernon.
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Bite off more than you can chew and then chew like crazy.
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1st Feb 2019, 08:38 AM #98Most Valued Member
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Yes you could say that.
Yes that is the important part. I'm still waiting for the possible consequences "for the welder". If we can find one then the service centre will no longer need to use a work safe copout to avoid warranty obligations. They will be able to calmly explain "because the earth pin was 3mm narrower it caused all the caps to blow and fried everything".
No No, you forget, replacing a plug is something to risky for even a sparky to do without a lab full of test gear.
We modified the earth pin. The active and neutral are untouched.
Well we agree on something
So no problem with 25 fan heaters on one circuit then?
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1st Feb 2019, 08:47 AM #99Pink 10EE owner
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I purchased a 200 amp inverter welder some years back. Came with a 15 amp plug.
Last year I purchased a second identical unit for someone else. This one came with a 10 amp plug.Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.
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1st Feb 2019, 09:47 AM #100Most Valued Member
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You sure they were identical? Exactly the same electronics inside?
Chris
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1st Feb 2019, 11:56 AM #101Golden Member
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1st Feb 2019, 05:37 PM #102Most Valued Member
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From the ABC website today:
"The Victorian branch of the Electrical Trades Union pledged more than $1 million to the ALP, and another $200,000 to the Victorian Greens."
That's one reason why we won't be adopting the NZ rules on DIY wiring.Chris
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