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29th Apr 2016, 09:55 PM #1Pink 10EE owner
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NBN satellite internet gone live
Just a heads up for people a couple of days ago the NBN satellite service went live for anyone who lives away from it all and suffers from slow expensive internetz. The official starting was today.
Although the monthly quotas on the NBN satellite service are not very good, they are still better then what we can get now.
You can now apply through an ISP that will supply NBN sat services. Although the big three ISP's, Telstra, Optus and TPG group are not at this stage offering NBN sat services.
A page showing a graph of providers and plans is here. https://birrraus.com/satellite/satellite-providers/Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.
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30th Apr 2016, 12:08 AM #2
How long ago did you sign up?
I mentioned it in one of my posts at the time I signed up. Supposed to take up to 10 months to get all installations done. Just need to wait and see. This may be the first time in my life that I have had access to reasonable speed. Should be faster than the 2400 baud I started with.
Dean
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30th Apr 2016, 08:09 AM #3Pink 10EE owner
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If you signed up months ago your installation should be one of the first. I only tried to sign up with an ISP a few days ago but have been informed my application can not yet proceed.
Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.
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30th Apr 2016, 10:13 AM #4
Because of our location we have Satellite every thing. Austar, free to air TV, and Internet. We enrolled with the Australian Satellite quite a while ago. My wife checked the other day and said that we had missed the first batch of subscribers so hopefully we will be in the next batch.
We tried Dial up but it was next to useless, so then we went with Satellite. It was a lot quicker than Dialup initially but is now quite slow. We can't stream movies/U Tube due to the lag.
The new set up can't get here quick enough!Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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30th Apr 2016, 01:41 PM #5
I hope that is the case. I received an email from my provider with a link to sign up. This was in mid January. Naturally I jumped straight on it and signed up.
What is dial up like now? I was not aware that dial up modems had received any advancements in years. Mind you, I have not bothered checking. I used to keep up with computer developments, but moved on to other things. My last modem was 56k. I have had 1700k reported from satellite by Speedtest.com. It has been a while since I used this test as it is Flash based and I have disabled Flash on my computer. I don't know if these 2 figures are directly related tho. 56k is baud and 1700k is bps. I think they are the same, but not sure. Wow, it has been a long time.
Satellite is not considered good enough for streaming. The lag is a problem, but also the speed. I have never considered movies as they take up huge amounts of data and that amount is not available on satellite plans that I have access to. I download and save YouTube videos for later viewing. YouTube does not like this, but I have no other option. I only download 360 resolution. With the extra data allowance available for offpeak with the NBN plan I will start downloading higher resolutions. My plan, from memory will allow 50G data offpeak. The program I use to download video will enable me to schedule the download for a later time.
We had satellite TV installed. It cost nothing due to some govt scheme. They tested our existing aerial and decided it was not good enough so went satellite. I moved the TV aerial and lifted it higher. It had a pole with about 5 telescoping sections, but not much was in use. After this improvement we started getting pretty good reception. This was around the time city channels started to be made available in rural locations. The biggest problem is that all that technology does not change the content available. The satellite TV does not connect now. Probably because I refused to leave it turned on all the time and updates etc were missed. Some months ago I disconnected the TV aerial amplifier power supply while checking for an RCD tripping fault. I still have not reconnected it and due to the difficulty in reaching behind a cupboard to do so, have no intention to. This means I have no access to any form of TV. No problem. I think it is over 2 years since I bothered. What's the point when there is nothing to watch.
Dean
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30th Apr 2016, 02:06 PM #6Banned
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We can't have that. If you dont watch TV ya wont know how you should think about the 'issues'. God forbid! without TV you might closely research the 'issues' and actually think for yourself and have some independent thoughts
I haven't had a TV conection for some time and now find when I see one when out and about that the programs are juvenile at best.
With the high end any subject education available at any time on the internet why waste time watching the idiot box.
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30th Apr 2016, 03:12 PM #7
Yes, all very true. I do like watching documentaries, but found that I was only finding out about them after they had aired. Of course if I had pay TV I would be fine as they would be repeated 4 times a day for a month and then this cycle repeated 6 months later. I would still have to watch ads tho. I know download doco's from YouTube.
Ads are one of the biggest problems other than the total lack of watchable content. I can sit thru an ad once. The second time I get annoyed. The third time I realise that an intelligent person would not waste that much of their life on them. What value do people place on their time?
We can't have that. If you dont watch TV ya wont know how you should think about the 'issues'. God forbid! without TV you might closely research the 'issues' and actually think for yourself and have some independent thoughts
Dean
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30th Apr 2016, 10:31 PM #8Pink 10EE owner
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You could ring them up and find out if the order has proceeded.
What is dial up like now? I was not aware that dial up modems had received any advancements in years.
Satellite is not considered good enough for streaming. The lag is a problem, but also the speed. I
Satellite is usually very good at UDP streaming. That is about what it is best at as there is no need to send data both ways.
Satellite's downfall is when there needs to be transmission both ways like with most normal internet usage. Due to the latency that can never be avoided it can play merry hell with your internet usage.Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.
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1st May 2016, 12:32 PM #9
Dialup is still at 56k! I guess everyone has to try it to see what it is like. I thought it was fast when I first used it. To put it in some perspective tho, my first computer had a 100M hard drive. For the younger ones, YES that is correct. 100M. Even on my slow connection I can download 100M in a few minutes. I remember when downloading a 1M file was just a dream. I can only download 100M in a few minutes as I do this with a download manager. Firefox cannot hope to get anywhere near this speed.
Dean
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4th May 2016, 12:51 PM #10
I was going to ring and enquire at some point, but I have just received an email from my provider. I will be staying close to the phone for a while.
Dean
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18th May 2016, 10:39 AM #11
Had a visit from the installer on Monday. He came to do the installation. He couldn't do it.
The huge gum tree to the North of the house was in the way. The existing dish points at it as well. Maybe this one is more sensitive to interference. He said his instructions were not to install in this situation. He had to put in a report and let my provider make a decision about installation options.
He mentioned 2 options, but said that as the service was so new, these had not been given the ok yet.
1. Put the dish on my shed and cut down 2 smaller trees. 300 - 400mm trunks.
2. Mount the dish on a pole next to the paddock fence. This will put the dish under the trees here. They will have to dig a trench back to the house, about 50m.
Number 2 sounds good, but I have to wait for my provider to get back to me. I spent a lot of time cleaning up the study and rearranging the network components. Its years since it was so neat and accessible. The original satellite modem was located on top of a computer cupboard I made, which has a lift up top to get to the scanner underneath it. Duh! Some people are totally clueless. That really pi55ed me. The cables were not long enough to reach any further. At least this bloke was a local professional installer. Networks etc.
Dean
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6th Jun 2016, 02:42 PM #12
Excert from another thread
I suspect some of my issues are related to having a slow satellite connection, which may see a lot of timer related errors on servers.
I hope these problems will be largely fixed next week as I am hoping my NBN Satellite service will be connected. I have had major problems with organising this as nobody seems to know what is going on. This NBN satellite thingy is brand new after all. My setup is non-standard. There has to be a direct line from the dish to the satellite without interference. The existing dish peeps thru the foliage of a massive gum tree. There is nowhere on the house where this is possible. The office people seem to be totally incapable of passing this information on to the installer. I expressly asked them to pass the information on and still they managed to fail.
The end result is that I have to provide a trench for the installer to lay conduit/cable from the ground position next to a paddock fence back to the house. I still have not been told exactly how deep this trench needs to be. I am going 450mm. The installer thought either 300mm or 450mm. The trench will be done Tuesday and the installer comes on Thursday.
Dean
I finally got annoyed enough about the runaround that I raised my voice, politely. I had to ring and cancel the booking for the trench digger, which has been booked from Wednesday until well after I need it. Nice. I had it booked for tomorrow morning. I suppose I should be grateful they did actually ring today. I don't want the trench open any longer than it has to be. Probably be a distaster. Luckily there has recently been a new rental place opened up. They had what I needed. Cheaper too.
I demanded that the installer ring me personally and soon, not the day before the installation. At this stage I have very little trust that what they say will actually work out. He is meant to ring today. He is a nice guy. I hope it works out, of course, but the installers cannot do anything without having it all preapproved. They have to have all the materials available and it is only sent out just before the job. No spares.
Dean
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6th Jun 2016, 03:17 PM #13Pink 10EE owner
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Not sure why you have to dig the trench. It is up to NBN to do and pay for everything.
Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.
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6th Jun 2016, 05:26 PM #14
I was told that because it is a non-standard installation it is my resposibility to do that part. The second installer said that he would be able to arrange someone to do it, but at my cost then he rang back and said that would not be possible. Then he did not ring back and tell me he was unable to make the appointment. It was lucky I got the phone call today and queried this because I may have had a trench sitting around doing nothing for some time. Not really a good thing at this time of year without considering the inconvenience to us.
At least they are supplying the conduit and cable. It may be because a contractor would have to dig the trench. $180.00 for all day Saturday for the trench digger and we are making up a list of trenches that need digging for other reasons. There is about 15m of poly water pipe to be laid across the rear of the yard. There is one tap there that is supplied by a very old poly pipe that has had to be repaired a couple of times already. This pipe runs under the floor of my shed. I think I missed it by a whisker when I laid the lathe slab. There are a couple of other places water pipes can be run . I have most of a roll of 32mm poly sitting doing nothing so the cost is minimal. When I moved the lathe out of the implement shed with the assistance of "Don" and his loader fork lift, one of the things I got him to do is lift the poly roll up out of the kikuyu behind the house yard. I doubt I would have been able to without resorting to poison.
Dean
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13th Jun 2016, 10:08 AM #15
A couple of posts ago I mentioned that I have an appointment set for today. My other half pointed out earlier that today is a public holiday. What are the chances?
In that post I also said I had demanded a phone call from the installer ASAP. I am still waiting.
The credibility of Skybridge is pretty low at the moment.
HaHaHaHa.......
I remember seeing "Google reviews" when looking them up. I just had a look. There were two. One said nothing, which probably says it all but had two stars, the other says
Why NBNCO use such an inept installer for their Skymuster installs I will never know.
If we get a "normal winter" they had better get off their ar5es or digging will be impossible.
Dean
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