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Thread: Extending trailer stub axles?
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25th Feb 2018, 02:26 AM #16
Hi Simon
I think there is a big difference between "handling all towing requirements" and being registrable for on-road use.
For one, the trailer in your ebay link, doesn't appear to conform with at least some of the registration requirements.
"All wheels of a trailer must be fitted with wheel guards that are designed to protect other road users against thrown-up stones, mud, ice, snow and water and to help prevent people contacting the moving wheels."
nor does the trailer have lights or reflectors.
I think that the examples you are looking at are classified as "farm machinery" which have very restricted access to public roads.regards from Canmore
ian
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25th Feb 2018, 06:56 AM #17Most Valued Member
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Hi Ian,
This is part of the description in the add..
New lights are wired up to suit std 7 pin plugThis unit is towable and can be road registered if needed
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25th Feb 2018, 07:11 AM #18Most Valued Member
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No. Buggar I didn't realise that.
I have taken more care to look up the up to date document this time! It's got alot more detail but still no mention of suspension requirements for a single axle trailer with an ATM less than 0.75T
Unless anyone can show me where it says that a single axle trailer with an ATM of less than 0.75T needs some form of suspension, I'm still thinking I'm good. I'm feeling pretty confident right about now.
Here's the link:
https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/.../vsb_01_b.aspx
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25th Feb 2018, 08:10 AM #19
Personally, I'd get a professional opinion.
Reading the VicRoads trailer registration info pack, where you could come to grief is being "qualified" to sign the certification that the trailer complies with VSB 1.
Then there is the issue of towing speed, stability and vibration -- some or all of which may require a suspension of some sort.
It would be a real bugger to front for registration and be knocked back.
Also, I'd be surprised if the rear overhang on this unit complies with the requirements.
The question at the end of the day, is how many of these splitters are actually registered for use on road?regards from Canmore
ian
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25th Feb 2018, 12:00 PM #20Most Valued Member
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Oh. So you are suggesting that people like myself should not build their own trailer because we don't have a "qualification"?
21.2 Rear Overhang
Dog Trailers
Rear overhang must not exceed the lesser of 3.7 metres or 60% of the wheelbase.
Nothing wrong with the overhang according to this, although I wouldn't necessarily like to tow it around the city.
Once again, please show me where it says I need suspension in writing....
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25th Feb 2018, 12:47 PM #21Diamond Member
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Note these are pig trailers, not dog trailers. For those, the rule is the lesser of 3.7m or the front load space. So you can have heaps of rear overhang, provided you have the same amount in front.
I was a little surprised about the registrability of that trailer, as it didn't have mudguards.
That said, when it does come to registering it, in NSW it needs to pass inspection by an authorised person, so it would come down to how they interpret VSB1.
I'll ask a mate who worked in the regulation side of things about the suspension issue - regs aside, I'd be a bit concerned about belting along at speed with nothing to absorb bumps in the road except for the tyres and a bit of flex in the axle and chassis.
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25th Feb 2018, 05:58 PM #22Most Valued Member
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Anyway..... back OT,
I will be extending the axles using a piece of pipe and adding some re-enforcement.
Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions.
Simon
Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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25th Feb 2018, 07:33 PM #23
I see the conversation with VicRoads going like this ...
you -- "I'd like to register this here trailer. Here's me paper work."
VicRoads -- "thank you sir. But this paperwork is for a light trailer. What you have there is an agricultural implement. You can't use this paperwork to register it."
Reading between the lines of this document https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/media/files/documents/business-and-industry/agricultural-trailers-brochure_web.pdf?la=en as the trailer manufacturer, you are strongly advised to include a suspension. You are not required to include a suspension, but it's difficult to see how you (as the manufacturer) could rate the implement for towing any faster than about 30 km/h without a suspension.
But, by the same token, you may be exempt from registration. As I said above, in your shoes, I'd be seeking professional advice.regards from Canmore
ian
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25th Feb 2018, 07:53 PM #24Most Valued Member
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Thanks Ian.
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27th Feb 2018, 06:40 PM #25Most Valued Member
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The local hire place....
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