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1st Feb 2017, 01:05 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Faulty Caravan wheel
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Over the past 2 days this wheel has gradually gone flat. The only leak I can find is from this joint in the rim. As yet Ihave not removed the tyre.
It is a 13" rim from an old 1977 Viscount pop-top caravan. We returned from a trip to Horsham in the van on Sunday evening and the tyre appeared fully inflated when we arrived home.
Assuming that the cause is a rust hole or something similar in the rim- can that saftely be welded? Or should I just search the internet for a suitable replacement rim?
I hope I have posted this in the right forum and am not wasting your time.
Bob
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1st Feb 2017, 03:17 PM #2
It is probably an early Holden rim. Check availability and price. You can check rim type by measuring stud spacing and comparing with charts from the net. Some wheels have the type stamped in them. Just replace it. It is not worth fixing and given the location of the leak probably difficult or impossible to do successfully.
Dean
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1st Feb 2017, 03:25 PM #3Novice
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I wouldn't be welding a wheel that has deteriorated to that extent. This is probably an old Holden wheel, they used to be very common on trailers and caravans. The stud pattern is 5 x 108mm (4-1/4"). I don't like your chances of finding a replacement, although Volvo used this pattern and you may find a Volvo mag wheel in 14" if you really look hard.
Easiest way out of this would be to replace the hubs and bearings on the caravan with a new wheel stud pattern. 5 x 114.3 (4-1/2") would probably be the preferred stud pattern as, because it's so commonly used, getting wheels is easy.
Hope this helps.
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1st Feb 2017, 03:45 PM #4
Is it tubed or tubeless?
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1st Feb 2017, 05:26 PM #5Intermediate Member
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1st Feb 2017, 05:44 PM #7
You should be able to pick up another rim fairly easy, mate of mine was able to buy a few of the early Holden rims from our tyre dealer and also was able to source others if needed by ringing a couple of trailer companies and car wreckers
Cheers
DJ
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1st Feb 2017, 05:45 PM #8
IF it is a Holden 13 inch wheel these were last used in 1967 on the HR Holden.
I doubt they were ever airtight for use with tubeless tires.
Changing wheels and hubs etc, will also incur brake replacement at additional cost.
Just get a tyre fitter to put a tube in it.
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Hi Bob, if you're going to put a tube in it, I'd look at cleaning off the rust, as the flakes can and will work their way into the tube. DAMHIKT Probably cheaper to get another rim, and hopefully it won't be as bad. Just had a look on Gumtree and found quite a few for sale, priced from $25 upwards.
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2nd Feb 2017, 06:00 PM #10
As mentioned earlier, rims that age (if it is 13in Holden) would be most likely made for tubed tyres though some of the final production years might have been suited to tubeless tyres. If the leak has just become significant recently, and particularly during or just after a trip, I suspect that it might be indicating the onset of fatigue cracks where the rim and wheel centre are spot welded together. I would suggest that the tyre be removed from the rim and the interior of the rim be examined for cracking prior to fitting a tube, just in case there are cracks.
Replacement options include the 14 inch Volvo 242/244/245 wheels (1975 to 1982 approx). You mention body clearance and changing tyres etc, but should be able to work around that in one of two ways. The first is to identify and fit tyres of a different profile to retain an overall diameter similar to that of the 13in tyres. I have a Pug 306 with 185/65 x 14 tyres and a trailer on 13in Holden rims and tubed 175/75x 13 tyres. The car tyres are slightly broader and virtually the same diameter as the trailer tyres, and you could safely go to 175/65 x 14 on the 5.5inch Volvo rims, as that was standard for the rims until the 1978 model year.
Alternatively, you could install a riser plate of about 1/2in between the spring and axle to lift the van body relative to the axle to retain clearance, but I think that you should be able to resolve the issue by juggling tyre profiles. Either involve some stuffing around, but certainly less than loosing the van because a wheel split due to fatigue cracking. You may be able to get a set of bare 14in Volvo rims at Pick A Part Kilsyth for about $15ea, I kept my 245's on the road for about 20yrs using them virtually exclusively as my parts supply.I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.
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2nd Feb 2017, 06:36 PM #11Intermediate Member
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Thank you all for your advice. I removed the tyre this morning and was not happy with the condition of the rim. Bob Jane tyres in Chadstone condemned the rim . I have been able to get a 13" holden rim and it will be fitted tomorrow.
regards
bob
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2nd Feb 2017, 07:17 PM #12
Might be worth getting any others on the van checked also.
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2nd Feb 2017, 09:44 PM #13Mechanical Butcher
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I recently had a wheel failure on an old trailer that had Holden rims, gone rusty.
Two new aftermarket rims and new tyres were installed for $270.
Jordan
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23rd Feb 2017, 10:08 PM #14
A lot of people getting excited that holden have not fitted 5 stud 13 inch wheels for many decades ........ any trailer spares shop will sell you a brand new 13 inch 5 stud holden wheel ....... they are still being made and they are still being fitted to new trailers.
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24th Feb 2017, 10:04 AM #15Golden Member
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I bought secondhand Volvo wheels off gumtree for my last trailer that fit that old Holden stud pattern I think. Alloys, lightweight, well made.
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