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    Speedgas is now supplying Total Tools stores and Power10 cylinders are accepted for swap to Speedgas cylinder. The power 10 cylinders will be re stickered to speedgas brand when they get filled at Speedgas HQ. More here and also here

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    I had a chat with my local Total Tools a couple of weeks ago about acetylene, he said they aren't currently stocking it because of an asbestos contamination, I'm not sure if that's a national issue or just here in S.A

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    Quote Originally Posted by NedsHead View Post
    I had a chat with my local Total Tools a couple of weeks ago about acetylene, he said they aren't currently stocking it because of an asbestos contamination, I'm not sure if that's a national issue or just here in S.A
    mmm they told me it was because they were not able to store it outside as required for flammable gases.

    wonder who really knows???

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    Quote Originally Posted by NedsHead View Post
    I had a chat with my local Total Tools a couple of weeks ago about acetylene, he said they aren't currently stocking it because of an asbestos contamination, I'm not sure if that's a national issue or just here in S.A
    Hi Nedshead,
    My reaction was BS there hasn't been asbestos in Acetylene cylinders since Moses played full back for Jerusalem. However I thought before getting my daily exercise of jumping to conclusions I should really check into it. Here is what the fuss is all about :

    https://www.asbestossafety.gov.au/al...lene-cylinders

    Sneaky plicks are at it again!

    While I think of it there are also a certain amount of storage regulations based on SAA codes that prohibit a fuel gas being stored adjacent an oxidising gas. It is easier not to stock the fuel gas rather than pay the cost of supplying the infrastructure needed to be compliant with the regs or legislation.

    Grahame

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    My local Bunnings in Sydney just hada store built with all internal lumber also strangely there gas is stored inside too they have Argon, Argon mix, Oxygen and Acet

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSpoon View Post

    If i start using a heap of Gas I'll just sit my purchased bottle to the side, use a rental and then when go back to occasional use will use the bought bottle again. Then again you can always sell them.
    I jumped on the band wagon when SpeedGas started selling cylinders i have had my cylinder i donno maybe 4 years now? i have swapped it around 5 times I'm not sure if i come out in front over renting but where do us cylinder owners stand now Bunnings has gases? i have always wondered if i forked out $315 for a D cylinder for nothing now and it may have zero value

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    My local Bunnings stores their oxy & acetylene cylinders in seperate locked cages that are just plonked in the carpark.
    Chris

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    Can someone please tell me what BOC's yearly rental is on a D Argon cylinder or does it vary from state to state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    Hi Nedshead,
    My reaction was BS there hasn't been asbestos in Acetylene cylinders since Moses played full back for Jerusalem. However I thought before getting my daily exercise of jumping to conclusions I should really check into it. Here is what the fuss is all about :

    https://www.asbestossafety.gov.au/al...lene-cylinders

    Sneaky plicks are at it again!

    While I think of it there are also a certain amount of storage regulations based on SAA codes that prohibit a fuel gas being stored adjacent an oxidising gas. It is easier not to stock the fuel gas rather than pay the cost of supplying the infrastructure needed to be compliant with the regs or legislation.

    Grahame
    I wonder which company was importing and why there hasn't been a recall if it is such an issue.
    CHRIS

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    My guess would be the whole issue is under investigation.

    It could very well mean all cylinder imports from China are suspended until such time authorities are satisfied that no contaminants are present.
    I tend to think more than one supplier will be affected.

    A recall could well occur as a result of ongoing investigations. Think of the money that will cost.

    On yet another level it means that the government bureaucracy now has a good reason to doubt the declarations of Chinese manufacturing companies over a much wider range of products. People will recall their track record on the babies powdered milk formula contaminated with melamine, issue .

    Any further discussion on that is best done in the Off Topic forum.

    Grahame

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    My local Bunnings stores their oxy & acetylene cylinders in seperate locked cages that are just plonked in the carpark.
    The separation is a legislated requirement - if the distance is not sufficient -as it was in our school, a firewall has to separate the cylinders. We ended up referring to the local fire brigade who had acess to the suitable standards. We built a firewall, and had it inspected and that was that.

    It could be that Bunnings has not read the SAA standard thoroughly, as "plonked in the carpark does not sound too good, particularly if its near your car. The public proximity to the cages is a cause for concern.

    Grahame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    The separation is a legislated requirement - if the distance is not sufficient -as it was in our school, a firewall has to separate the cylinders. We ended up referring to the local fire brigade who had acess to the suitable standards. We built a firewall, and had it inspected and that was that.

    It could be that Bunnings has not read the SAA standard thoroughly, as "plonked in the carpark does not sound too good, particularly if its near your car. The public proximity to the cages is a cause for concern.

    Grahame
    Funny story time. Back when the scares of white powder and bombs were rampant in the postal system and customs wanted to look at all parcels more closely it was decided that any suspect parcels were to be put in a container and held for seven days to see if they exploded before putting them back into the sorting system. The bosses decided they wanted to put the container on the sorting floor near where everyone was working so the union got a bit excited about that and decided it wasn't a good idea at all. They suggested it be put next to the admin offices all the bosses worked in so strangely enough the idea failed to proceed and it was all conveniently forgotten.
    CHRIS

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    I imported some head gaskets for a Honda 5.5hp engine. Came from Malaysia, clearly said contains asbestos on the packaging.

    Amazing I did not die from looking at it. Country has gone ape over asbestos, amazingly the carcinogenic substance petrol, is still available everywhere.
    Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    I imported some head gaskets for a Honda 5.5hp engine. Came from Malaysia, clearly said contains asbestos on the packaging.

    Amazing I did not die from looking at it. Country has gone ape over asbestos, amazingly the carcinogenic substance petrol, is still available everywhere.
    Try importing a car and see what happens, if there is not a report accompanying it that declares no asbestos then they literally pull the whole thing apart and you pay for it including figuring out how to repair the damage customs caused and then having to put it back together.
    CHRIS

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    Again guys,
    The thread is about Swap and Go gas cylinders.

    Keep it on Topic or head on over to OFF Topic.

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    But remember, they charge you for a new cylinder of gas every 12 months even if you havent used it! I had to have a set in the van for "just in case". Obviously It was rarely used and when they sent out a invoice at the end of the 1st year the cylinders were still 99% full....so I ended up going the bunnings way...if you using a set or more a year its (BOC) is good value... but not for me.
    From what I can see if you use gas only very occasionally Bunnings seems better even though the price of refills is more than at BOC - the good thing about the Bunnings deal is that you hopefully can get a refund on the cylinder deposit when you no longer need gas equipment. Not sure about refunds under other schemes.

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