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26th May 2017, 09:37 AM #1Most Valued Member
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Token tools welder
I am about to put in an order for one of these.......
https://weldingstore.tokentools.com....-elite-digital
I am also going to get the foot pedal and flow meter as optional accessories..
Any thing else I should consider and why?
eg. Would I really I need the longer plasma torch length?, push button on torch, flex head
Considering I am not a pro welder and do not expect to make money from this machine is the 256 (next size up) worth the extra money?.
and what about torch head consumables or any other machine consumables (not welding consumables) for welder I might need.
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26th May 2017, 10:12 AM #2Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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Length ; do you mean cable/hose length? If so, depends what/where you are welding.
I weld everything at a small bench so I haven't come close to needing a longer cable
Flex head; also depends what/where you are welding.
There have been a few occasions where a smaller, more flexible, torch would have been useful. I will probably get one of these sometime
"Push button" , all torches have a push button , I think you mean "current dial"
I haven't felt the need for one.
Have used the pedal once in 18 months, might use is more now that I have the basic hang of the machine.
Considering I am not a pro welder and do not expect to make money from this machine is the 256 (next size up) worth the extra money?.
and what about torch head consumables or any other machine consumables (not welding consumables) for welder I might need.
Plasma electrodes and torch tip are handy to have on hand if they get really dirty is easier to swap out mid job and proceed instead of stopping to clean them.
Question for the experts, Whats an easy way to clean torch parts?
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26th May 2017, 10:35 AM #3Diamond Member
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As an L-plate TIG welder, I'm finding I prefer to use the fixed amps for steel and the pedal for aluminium - the latter seems to be far more dynamic and critical in terms of how heat builds in the material. As for how many amps, if you're doing steel, like Bob, I barely go over 100A. Anything that needs more than that it probably suited to stick or MIG anyway.
Aluminium is a different kettle of fish - I just did my first proper fabrication task on aluminium, and certain welds where there was a lot of material around the joint had me maxxed out at 200A. If I go any thicker, I'll probably start having to do increasing amounts of joint prep (bevels etc.).
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26th May 2017, 12:06 PM #4Intermediate Member
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have you been spying on me? Talk about great minds, or was it fool never differ? who cares. I am reading with avid interest as well as some of the older posts.
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27th May 2017, 12:20 PM #5Tool addict
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Whilst I already had a pile of thoriated tungstens I bought at a sale many moons ago, I put in an order for some of the lanthanated tungstens the other day after doing a bit of reading online and a strong consensus that lanthanated are the preferred choice by many as a solid all-round tungsten.
I got the flex head on my torch, I can see how it would be handy for tricky situations, so in my opinion the relatively minor cost is worth it.
The long torch leads would be handy if you're working on a large project, otherwise they'd likely be a nuisance.
Get some filler rods as well, I mildly kicked myself that I didn't order any with my machine, but I have no issue with ordering more things from TT, Pete has definitely won my loyalty
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7th Jun 2017, 09:28 PM #6
Ho Eskimo
You should have made something by now .What did you think of the Token tools welder.
I am sure we all want to know.
Grahame
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7th Jun 2017, 10:59 PM #7
Fixed amps DC is good for steel, but Id rather have the pedal for control you cant camp out with fixed unless you are using up and down slope ramps set to a couple seconds on a 2T trigger.
Dont be scared to crank up the amps on thicker stuff much easier than welding thin, will need to run 2.4mm+ electrode.
Welding up 6mm+ material I set my machine to 180amps and fit a 3.2mm electrode and blaze away, 6mm melts like butter get ready to jam in the filler rod though!
So far in my tig welding adventures I've found that 1.6mm and 3.2mm lath electrodes cover my every need, I researched a fair bit looking for the "perfect torch" and the WP20 ticks many boxes providing you have a watercooler to run it.
My machine come with a terrible wp18(same size as a 17)with the euro handle and anaconda sized hoses(theres 3 hoses in a thick rubber sheath)and fixed position trigger button, I ended up putting a straight handle on it with a micro switch that you can move around which made it easier to use... but still had them hoses that played havoc with my elbow so I lashed out on a CK20 torch with 25' of superflex hoses and leather cover, cost as much as a mid cheap tig machine but my elbows are thanking me!....................................................................
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8th Jun 2017, 09:03 AM #8Most Valued Member
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its not here yet Grahame...
and wont be unless I order it....lol
And have you been reading my phone....While watching TV last night I made a note in mobile calendar to order today....
edit...done and should be here in 1-3 days so they say...just hope she aint home when it arrives
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13th Jun 2017, 03:36 PM #9Most Valued Member
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it arrived ...but I cant open the box up and have a look.... cos you know who is home
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13th Jun 2017, 03:48 PM #10Intermediate Member
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if you think she doesn't know you're dreaming. Just don't keep us in suspense for too long
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14th Jun 2017, 09:31 AM #11Most Valued Member
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14th Jun 2017, 10:58 AM #12Intermediate Member
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peel coat. going to use it on new bike I bought after tip bike was stolen multi colour looks ratty. In you case just say TRUST ME it fell off the back of a truck.
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14th Jun 2017, 11:07 AM #13Most Valued Member
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what gas do I need for the tig??
Also need to go and get 20amp GPO...I didnt know they even made them!!!
mmm...Might as well get 3 and swap my 15ampers over to 20Ampers..and of course a 20amp CB
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14th Jun 2017, 11:14 AM #14Intermediate Member
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straight argon I think and I though you got the 215 tig spec. was 240v 15amp or did you go for the bigger 256 which requires 20amp
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14th Jun 2017, 11:46 AM #15Most Valued Member
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Bigger is Better right?..or at least that is what I see on here...lol
should have read the info page a bit closer....might have just got the 215 if I knew I needed 20amp outlet..too late now
and besides Harry72 told me to get the bigger one!...hahahaha
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