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    i think you should draw it Kryn and take a photo or scan for upload

    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    Hi Dean,
    This will be simple to suspend. Remove the handle and replace it with a bit of 5 or 6mm flat drilled to suit the handle bolt holes. Weld a piece of 25 X 5 X 75 flat vertically in between the bolt holes. On top of that weld a piece of tubing/pipe that will slide inside another, which will be suspended from the tracking mentioned earlier. You may need to drill a hole near the end to prevent it from falling out. On the outer sleeve, a 50X5 flat with several holes drilled to suit a bow/D shackle welded vertically along the pipe. The shackle can be moved into a position so that the mig cable can come out at an angle or any position you like, preferably so the cable out doesn't get a sharp bend. You may need to weld another drilled vertical plate behind the "handle" to give more angle if required.
    Hope you can understand what I'm on about.
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    Hi Dean,
    As suggested by meadow street, here are some sketches of how to make the carrier. Unistrut would be fine, just a matter of finding a couple of rollers for it, make sure that the power cord is suspended behind it, otherwise it'll drag across the weld and melt or you'll trip over it.

    DSCF0232.jpgDSCF0231.jpgDSCF0230.jpgDSCF0233.jpg
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    I am thinking along the lines of unistrut. If I can find some I will have a go at using that. I have priced it locally and don't wish to buy it. I had lots of bits and pieces. I just need to see if I still have any left.

    There are a lot of winter jobs needing doing at the moment. Fallen tree removal, drainage ditch cleaning out, verandah leaks to fix not to mention gutters to be cleaned. Plenty to keep me occupied.

    Dean

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    Thanks Kryn. That makes it clearer. I was a bit confused by the mention of the D shackle. This was intended as an attachment method I guess?

    Your post slipped thru the cracks last night. I only picked it up today when I came in for lunch.

    Lovely weather here today . There is more water sitting around than we have seen for some years. About time too. Our dam and swamps are full although I don't think the soil is saturated yet so it may soak away. It is normal here for the lower areas to be under water thru mid to late winter. That is about 75% of our property. This is why I am hesitant to drive down to the shearing shed.

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    Sorry Dean, the idea of the D shackle was to use the holes in the support arm to connect to the roller in the Unistrut.
    Glad to hear you've gotten over the drought there.
    Kryn
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    Well here is what I have done.

    Welder_Overhead_Track[1].jpg

    I drove the farm ute down to look for the unistrut with some tools I thought I might need to get it down. It was hanging from the roof beams. Removal was quick and simple. I cut a small amount off one end and just screwed it to the shed extension roof beams. It is only connected by 2 brackets at the moment. These are indicated by blue arrows. I will add some support at each end later.

    Welder_Track_Trolley[1].jpg

    This little trolley was in the unistrut. It had more chain on it and the clip was added by me. This whole arrangement was put up back when I had the idea of butchering our own sheep. I have given up on that idea. Not worth the hassle. There are several of these trolleys somewhere, and the hooks for hanging sheep.

    Welder_Hanging_Bracket[1].jpg

    The welder bracket with the clip. That is just a bit of 25mm SHS 3mm wall with part of a chain link welded on. Guess where the chain link came from?

    Welder_Mounted_on_Track[1].jpg

    Here is the welder mounted up in position. It is pretty close to the welding table, but I cannot move the track any further away. If you look at the top picture, the grey/silver/green thing in bottom left corner is the outside of the door into the main shed. You can see that it is close to the track. The door swings open towards the viewing position and is held open by a RE magnet on the steel roof support. I intend to clean up some stuff and move the welding table out to provide more clearance.

    Those with sharp eyes will notice the difference in lighting between this picture and the first one. I had bought some LED strips last week and decided this was a good time to fit one. There was a 5ft fluoro hanging from the right hand wooden beam. This 1200mm strip is very compact and very bright compared to the fluoro. It is only about 25mm high and I have it set inside the beams. If I move the table out the light might be in the wrong place, but it is held up by clips that screw to the bars so moving it will be easy. The fluoro was often being hit by bits swinging around as I repositioned them. You can see the space I have available. This is one of the reasons for getting this new light.

    On the welding table is my current welding project. A wood box for the front verandah (lounge fire). I have already made one for the back verandah (kitchen range). The idea is to back the lawn mower trailer up to the verandah and wheel the wood box over to it. When full push it back against the wall. This box is being made up from an existing frame (top section), extend the uprights and add a rectangle frame to the botttom as it sits. It is upside down. Nothing fancy and it won't be made to look flash.

    Water[1].jpg

    This is the view from outside the doors you can see in the previous photo. The track to the side of the shed passes thru about the middle of this photo. The shearing shed is just to right of centre on the far side of the paddock. It is certainly Gum Boot time. The location of my future Satellite Dish Pole looks pretty much like this at the moment. I think it is going to be some time before that installation happens.

    Dean

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    Nice work Dean, I always over think/design my ideas, your's, nice and simple.
    Kryn
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    I am guilty of the same thing at times, but using what you have on hand can restrain your ideas.

    Dean

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    Today I used my plasma cutter for the first time for a proper job.

    I needed somewhere to put it out of the way. I started with it sitting on the 1800mm x 1200mm sheet I was cutting.

    Then I looked up and there was this track up above to hang it from.

    I did just toss a bit of rope over the track and tied the plasma up. I need to look for another one of those trolleys, or make one. I also need to make a wheel guide for the cutter torch.

    The new petrol driven air compressor also got a good workout. I have a question about this. It stalls when the pressure switch kicks in. When I bought it the previous owner said it sometimes does this first time around. It did it about 3 times then was ok next time. It is a Peerless P17. Is the motor just meant to accelerate from idle with air pressure on the compressor?

    Dean

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    Hi Dean,
    Is this the same track that the welder runs on?????
    There should be a "dump" valve in the system to unload any air between the compressor cylinder/s and the tank, so that the motor doesn't try to start under load. Try and find it, pull it apart and see if there is anything that allows the air to get back into the cylinder/s. I can't remember how it works but should be like a one way valve.
    Kryn
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    Ha Ha, yes that track.

    Thanks for the info. I will have a look tomorrow. There is a valve assembly which has a small manual valve on one end that can be locked open to release the pressure. I have this open to start the motor. I need to investigate the rest of this assembly.

    Dean

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    Dean, any chance of some pics of the various valves on the compressor, please. The small manual valve that you describe sounds like a pressure release valve, if the motor doesn't cut out and keeps going, too much pressure would build up and could be disarseterous.
    Kryn
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    It probably is. It is a bit like the relief valves on hot water systems etc except the lever can flip over 180 deg with the open position at 90 deg.

    Pics tomorrow.

    Dean

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    The valve is this thing although mine is slightly different.

    Idler Control Valve.jpg

    I had another play and a better look this morning. The head pressure is being bled off while it is idling. I watched the throttle lever kicking into run position, but the motor stalled before it got to full on. The motor does not get time to accelerate at all. It worked on the 3rd attempt again, but then continued to not work on some cycles. Seems like it needs adjusting.

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    Sorry Dean, can't help you on that one, been a long time since I'd seen one like that.
    kryn
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