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    Quote Originally Posted by rascal View Post
    ...everyone who welds should have _________ for the inevitable burns.
    I have to (respectfully) disagree with you there. The reasons that PPE is worn during welding is to prevent injuries like burns. If you are getting burns then you are not being careful enough. If you regard being injured as inevitable then you have the wrong approach.

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    A commercial welding enterprise that mandates the wearing of PPE would still keep first aid for burns on hand for legal reasons and just in case something goes wrong.

    If you are getting burns then you are not being careful enough.
    Guilty.

    If you regard being injured as inevitable then you have the wrong approach.
    It depends on what the severity of the injury is. Pain is pretty constant for me these days. I get pain from the most mundane actions. It "can" be painful lifting a coffee cup to drink. No I am not joking. It is a matter of trying to do things in a way that does not hurt. When it comes to burns, if it is just pain and a mark on the skin then I don't worry much about it. It does not have any repercussions down the track. Serious debilitating burns are another thing altogether. Them I don't need. I take care with the serious stuff and let the minor irritations look after themselves.

    I think my skin is a bit more resistant to burns than average tho. If a burning coal falls out of the lounge fire when I am stoking it, I just pick it up and flick it back in. Thick skin I guess.

    I am not suggesting that anyone else copy my actions.

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    My impression is that folks mistakenly use burn gels or gauzes as first aid treatment in place of running water because they think that will get them back to the welder quickly

    In terms of treatment nothing beats running water to remove heat and treat a mild to medium level burn. Water has the highest heat capacity and conductivity of any commonly available materials or anything you will find in even top rate first aid cabinets. Yes, running water over a burn for 15 minutes means you cannot weld during this time period but the reduced subsequent pain, skin loss and aggravation is easily recovered.

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    A very good point Bob. Usually my tongue provides all the water my burns get. A burn serious enough to need water is just plain clumsy and you deserve time out anyway. My burns are generally minor. I had a couple of blobs shoot up my sleeve the other day. The mig gas reg had been bumped (welding mask) and not enough gas was happening. Some of my shirts are full of tiny holes from gasless mig welding. Hold them up to the light and it looks like a star show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rascal View Post
    In my opinion everyone who welds should have JELONET for the inevitable burns.
    John
    Hi Lovey71
    Yes it is not IF you will suffer a burn ,it is WHEN.

    A potted Aloe Vera plant near my shed door has served me well for many years The Aloe vera plant if watered regularly is never out of date.

    The gel from the cut leaf is incredible in healing burns. It is far better than any product I have ever bought from a shop.

    How are your eyes? Those of us who have script glasses can have problems. Aligning the bottom of my glasses through the welding lens can be a bloody nuisance. Magnifying diopters are available to fit most shields to improve vision. Some people have used chemist shop reading glasses as an aid to improve welding vision.

    While we are there lets talk about glasses under the helmet all of the time.. At some time the auto dark shield must be raised.
    At that time it is entirely possible to accidentally strike the electrode and get an arc or sparks which can flash you or project spatter into your eyes.

    Ok script glasses are a must for those who normally wear them but for the rest of us safety glasses they will stop the damaging part of the UV ray or the spatte,.as will the script glasses.

    Finally -the cover lens of the helmet needs cleaning on a regular basis- believe it or not Simple Green works like a charm in getting the gunk off dirty welding shield cover lenses.

    After a time the cover lens will scratch.This scratching of course is accelerated if you leave your shield its not used.Its always a surprise how dirty the lens was after a new lens is fitted

    A bag or something to contain your shield when not in use is a good idea. The amount of dust and crap that builds up on helmets can be surprising.

    Good luck with your welding adventure and do not be afraid to post pictures as as you see there are oodles of blokes here, happy to help you.

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    Absolutely agree with the Aloe Vera plant. Have several and they are the best thing for burns.
    They need very little attention. Just keep them damp.
    You can buy it in bottles but shelf life is only about 3 weeks.

    Hooroo

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    I believe the welding arc also generates ultra violet ? waves and these can burn skin just like the sun does . I was sun burnt ( on a cloudy day ) while welding years ago, it was the arc that burnt my exposed skin just like the sun does in Summer time . Aloe Vera, must get one of those plants

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    I believe the welding arc also generates ultra violet ? waves and these can burn skin just like the sun does . I was sun burnt ( on a cloudy day ) while welding years ago, it was the arc that burnt my exposed skin just like the sun does in Summer time . Aloe Vera, must get one of those plants

    Yes UV burns skin and damages eyes as well.

    Cataracts, macular degeneration and photo keratitis (a feeling of sand in the eyes) can all be attributed to overexposure to UV light.

    Welding arcs emit UV radiation, Infra red and High energy light from the arc.

    Many welders think that the shield is absolute protection and forget that's it is all too easy to accidentally drop the electrode holder or make an accidental earth. A couple of mm of safety lens can block the majority of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post

    A potted Aloe Vera plant near my shed door has served me well for many years The Aloe vera plant if watered regularly is never out of date.

    Grahame
    Every boilerhouse I have ever worked in (including the current one) has had an Aloe Vera plant in it.
    Best thing ever!
    Only annoying thing is I seem to be using it a lot lately.
    Oh, and we never water ours but it seems to survive, though it is quite a big bugger, stands about 2 feet tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    I believe the welding arc also generates ultra violet ? waves and these can burn skin just like the sun does . I was sun burnt ( on a cloudy day ) while welding years ago, it was the arc that burnt my exposed skin just like the sun does in Summer time . Aloe Vera, must get one of those plants
    Yes welding does generate UV rays and it will cause "sunburn". We have a pulse mig at work and if you have any exposed skin you will have sunburn after 15 minutes of welding. Normal migs aren't as bad as that but it is still highly recommended to cover up when welding.

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    Anyone who has been pretty active on internet forums soon develops a flame proof thick skin.
    Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Anyone who has been pretty active on internet forums soon develops a flame proof thick skin.
    RC.
    You must be describing some of those characters on Utube. Many of them demonstrating Tig do so in short sleeves.

    As a relative generalisation of welding arc emissions through the 3 main processes the least emissions come from stick ,then mig then tig.

    It has a bit to do with electrode diameter and the amps setting on a particular diameter electrode. I learned very quickly in my weld shop training to wear a tee shirt under my workshirt.

    That's not to say that stick welding UV emissions aren't harmful- I know of lifetime stick welders with skin cancers at that vee neck location where they were not covered above the top shirt button.

    Grahame

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