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  1. #1
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    Default Token Tools MMA selection - need help!

    I'm a hobby welder. Most of my welding (>85%) is RHS, angle and flat in the range of 1.6mm to 3.0mm.

    What I have now is a Cigweld Transmig 180se and a Ozito Arc 140 (amps).

    I rarely use the mig, just to frustrating! I'm sure it is the operator and not the equipment. I weld almost everything with the little Ozito buzz box, much more user friendly (to me) than the mig.

    Since I favour stick over mig, I want to get an inverter stick. I'm thinking about the Token Tool ARC 162 OR the Token Tool Miniarc 205. Both have a five year warranty and I've read the Token Tool customer service is very good.

    I like the portability of the ARC 162 and since it doesn't have some of the features of the Miniarc 205, maybe it is more reliable. I don't foresee TIG in my future.

    What I don't like about the ARC 162 is the low top end, 125A and the 1.5 meter leads. The Miniarc 205 has a 200A top end and comes with 3.0 meter leads.

    What I don't like about the Miniarc 205 is that it has features I don't need. I see this as a 'negative' in reliability (more things to go wrong.

    So considering the above, what would be your thoughts?? Would the ARC 162 be adequate or go with Miiarc 205?? I appreciate any and all replies.

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    I have just had a look at the Token tools 205 STL -$299.

    What are the features you do not need ?


    • Given that its $299 -good value for money
    • Has 3 mtr leads
    • Will easily work within in the parameters you stated- with plenty to spare.
    • With a minimum of 10 amps it will run low enough for 2.00mm electrodes -to weld 1.6mm ( with some technique)
    • 5 year warranty these guys have their own repair ability as they are the machine designers not some Chinese person.



    I don't recall one bad word ever, about token tools welder on this board or any where else for that matter

    I wish I had seen more of these guys before I bought my Fronios.
    My only concern would be grabbing one before the price went up.

    This would be my choice

    Grahame

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    My concern with their 162 is that it maxes out at 125A, yet it still has a 15A plug. For a little machine like that, I'd be looking for something with a 10A plug - my BOC Smootharc 130 has one, and it makes it extremely handy when you can plug it into any common 10A outlet.

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    twebb01 already owns a Cigweld Transmig 180se which is s a designated 15 amp input. My natural assumption was that he has been using it on a 15 amp outlet.

    cheers
    Grahame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    My natural assumption was that he has been using it on a 15 amp outlet.
    Or he owns a file

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyArc View Post
    Or he owns a file
    Or 2 plugs ,a length of cable and a screw driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    I have just had a look at the Token tools 205 STL -$299.

    What are the features you do not need ?


    • Given that its $299 -good value for money
    • Has 3 mtr leads
    • Will easily work within in the parameters you stated- with plenty to spare.
    • With a minimum of 10 amps it will run low enough for 2.00mm electrodes -to weld 1.6mm ( with some technique)
    • 5 year warranty these guys have their own repair ability as they are the machine designers not some Chinese person.



    I don't recall one bad word ever, about token tools welder on this board or any where else for that matter

    I wish I had seen more of these guys before I bought my Fronios.
    My only concern would be grabbing one before the price went up.

    This would be my choice

    Grahame
    Grahame,

    Thank you for you feedback! You are well known and respected in the welding world! When I referred to 'the features I don't need' I was talking about features related to TIG. With my dismal experience with MIG and age (72), I don't anticipate an interest in TIG (but never say never).

    I just ordered the 205 STL!!! Can hardly wait!!

    Ted
    SE Qld

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